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New Member
United States
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Moving backwards in time with a newly acquired example to further my silver dollar fascination. I now have collected a nice companion for my type2 Boston China-Trade Pillar Dollar. This coin was part of the series that led into creation of the much misunderstood and still widely accepted as authentic Type2 Spanish dollar series, created under mysterious and extralegal conditions during comstock bonanza of the late 19th century. Looking forward to learning more about my Boston type Carolus IIII 8R also. I now need all your critical input about what kind of "Details" I ended up with. Imo it doesn't look so bad I wouldn't want to hang onto it for a while.      Edited by Diirizzyl
09/18/2016 9:55 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Clearly someone has attempted to clean the right obverse field, and probably most of the reverse as well. Candidly, it is not an attractive example.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like a cast counterfeit made up like it has been in the dirt. The corrosion on the coin does not appear natural.
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New Member
 United States
48 Posts |
It's slightly off weight also at 26.64g. Looks like maybe some micro dremmel action? No seams apparant along denticles or edge and has proper sounding silver ring to it.
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09/18/2016 6:26 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
All in, probably not a good idea to buy a Trade dollar unless in TPG holder. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Slider23 may be onto something. If it is real then it could have been in the ground and then cleaned harshly (but not completely?) when dug up. Many silver coins come up looking great, but under the right conditions they can corrode just like a copper coin can.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Dig a few thousand silver coins and it's almost impossible to find even one that is corroded, regardless of soil type, although salt water is a different story.
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New Member
United States
48 Posts |
In hand to the untrained eye, it does look like corrosion that may have been dremel cleaned. Also, this coin came from Atlantic coast, so salt water exposure could be likely.
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09/18/2016 10:05 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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This is one that I would not buy at any price. It does look like a sea salvaged piece that has been cleaned to remove some of the crud.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
968 Posts |
Moxking,
That is what I was referring to. If it were found in a shipwreck, on a beach, or even near a brackish estuary the silver will corrode. I've got several old silver coins from beaches that look really rough.
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New Member
United States
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
I agree with those who dislike that TD. Also agree with the Frog on waiting for a TPG. TDs have been one of the most counterfeited coins for the last many decades. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Excellent idea to return the corroded coin. Your second example is better, but you should consider buying a problem free NGC or PCGS graded Trade dollar in XF condition as they can be found for $230 to $250. You are paying a little more for knowing the coin is not counterfeit, and many of the Trade dollars are detail coins, so there is value in getting a problem free example. |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Looks like a cast counterfeit made up like it has been in the dirt. The corrosion on the coin does not appear natural. / there are too many issues with this ooin. I dont like the look of it either and without proper accreditation I would put this in the counterfeit catagory |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The 1878-S looks genuine and original. VF-35 but I don't like the nick on the wing.
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Genuine or not that is one Ugly coin  |
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