1987 D Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC MMS-012 This One Makes 6

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Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5240 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 7:19 pm I found this 1987 D LMC MMS-012 and this one makes the sixth one that I have. I guess that what I get for living in a region of the country where we see A LOT of Denver cents. The last pic was borrowed from Variety Vista. Edited by Jim0815 09/15/2018 7:20 pm Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 7:51 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5240 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 8:09 pm What's the popcorn for John1?!!? Waiting on others to weigh in! Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74849 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 8:36 pm Very interesting! There's nothing much I can say, since I know very little about the variety. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5240 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 8:46 pm E&V, 1987 had two D mintmarks. I kind of look at it like a transitional variety. The mintmark changed in 1988 but a few of the 1987's ended up getting the MMS-012 mint mark. Even a grade 45 is worth about 40 bucks. A grade 65 is worth $200. I've got six of them. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74849 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 10:23 pm Wow Jim! Maybe I can do another trade with you sometime, when I find another valuable variety. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5240 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 10:32 pm Sounds like a plan in the making. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74849 Posts	Posted 09/15/2018 10:37 pm That's cool! That will be the next future trade for me. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 09/16/2018 04:37 am Jim, Which MM is normal for the year? What is the tell tail sign to look for for the collectible one? Thanks. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5240 Posts	Posted 09/16/2018 09:14 am John1, The MMS-011 is the normal mint mark for that year. The tell tale sign for me is obviously the width and on the normal mint mark there is a thickness at the top of the mint mark. Mint mark positioning as well. The top pic is the MMS-011, the second pic is the MMS-012. Edited by Jim0815 09/16/2018 09:16 am Report this Post to the Staff
still lookin Pillar of the Community 967 Posts	Posted 09/16/2018 8:06 pm The mint marks for 1987 were place by hand. The location would vary if more than one obverse die was made with the new punch. Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5240 Posts	Posted 09/16/2018 8:18 pm I definitely agree with you on that but the pic on VV's site uses that as a reference. Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 09/16/2018 8:37 pm Jim, show me WHERE you can realize that kind of Dinero for a mintmark change. If anything it is nothing more than a Transitional state, not even an "error". I'm talking real life dollars in hand, paid in full, not some chart of arbitrary figures like NGC/PCGS lists, Coppercoins, Et Al. Otherwise I find it more than impossible to believe that for this kind of error., sorry...not passing my smell test. And if it's on ewwboy, that is NOT a real world indicator of value. Edited by Crazyb0 09/16/2018 8:39 pm Report this Post to the Staff
USSID18 Pillar of the Community 5464 Posts	Posted 09/16/2018 9:38 pm Quote: Looks like a normal 87-D to me. Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5240 Posts	Posted 09/16/2018 10:37 pm Crazyb0, I can't my friend. But, there must be something to it if Coneca recognizes it as a Variety. Then again the 1962 D with the MMS-007 is another one but you can't hardly give them away. I just think it's a pretty cool little known Variety. Report this Post to the Staff
still lookin Pillar of the Community 967 Posts	Posted 09/17/2018 12:27 am I decided to check some of the 1987 D cents that I had laying around here to see what I could figure out. The mint marks appear to me to be very visually similar. So I set them individually under a stereo zoom microscope and used the exposure area square to compare sizes on the mint marks of various coins. I looked at 1986 D, 1987 D and 1988 D. Once I had the focus and the square set up I did not change the settings. I just exchanged the coins and made comparisons. I took screen shots of four different coins. I just checked three 1986 coins and all mint marks were similar. I checked four 1988 coins and all mint marks there were similar. I checked 30 1987 coins. 23 of those matched the 1986 coins and 7 matched the 1988 cents. Photos below. If there is a flaw in this process let me know. Report this Post to the Staff
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1987 D LMC MMS-012 This One Makes 6