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Russian 1 Rouble Anna 1733 KM#192.2 Authentic Or Not?

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 Posted 11/18/2018  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I am now adding more photos of it which were taken under natural light(it's cloudy today locally)


I do not see any pics!
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Russian-1-Rouble-Anna-1733-KM#192.2-Authentic-Or-Not?
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 Posted 11/18/2018  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see the last few posted but not those earlier today.
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The close up photos make the coin's surface look grainy. I am feeling less confident that the coin is genuine now.
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Something went wrong when uploading. I reuploaded them and they are showing up on page 2 of this topic. Did you see them?
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Did you see them?


Now ..yes!
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 Posted 11/18/2018  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Loruca to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me, these new pictures, given their level of detail strengthen my conviction that this is a legitimate coin.
That being said, of course SG and precise weights and measurements are very much requirements of being 100% sure.
Note that SG measurements are very finicky, it is hard to be precise, so I only trust them marginally unless done with a tried and true setup.
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I must repeat - there is an absurd amount of varieties out there waiting to be discovered with early Russian coins. It is not a surprise to find new varieties only recently described after 200 (!) years.

Counterfeits of Anna rubles do exist but I do not recall seeing anything like this.
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 Posted 11/20/2018  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Check this out:

Specialized in Imperial Russian coins.

http://goccf.com/t/333432#2849289
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Hi Dorado,

From the pictures the coin looks legit. Please understand the time of production: 1733

Back then the production of coins was still very primitive in Russia as they had only started to mint 'proper' coins since Peter the Great in around 1700. Before that time they would either counter-mark foreign coins or make wire kopeks from foreign silver.

As far as I know each die was cut manually, there was no 'master die' from which new 'working dies' were copied. Thus, the variations in design of the coin are normal and not a solid indication of whether a coin is legit or not.

From what I see:

- Color is right
- Patina look natural
- Wear seems even and natural
- Scratch has patination
- Edge looks ok

There are many varieties known of this type and this coin looks perfectly fine to me.

What did you pay for it?
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What did you pay for it?


Thanks for your answer ...

The coin is not belongs to me .

Please read the full discussion :

http://goccf.com/t/333258




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Please understand the time of production: 1733

These words ignited me!

Who likes challenges?

If so ,read this ...and observe carefully ...

https://www.m-dv.ru/en/monety-rossi...2/types.html
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Dorado, sorry for the late reply, been away for a while. I don't understand why you're so concerned. It's a lovely coin, a huge number of varieties exist and dies were cut by hand, not copy/pasted by a machine. If in doubt spend 50$ and get it slabbed.
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If so ,read this ...and observe carefully ...

https://www.m-dv.ru/en/monety-rossi...2/types.html


I did look through the 1733 varieties in that link, and saw there is one described as "no brooch ... no cloak." These are the features that characterize the OP's coin.

Maybe I am missing something?
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