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2019 Apollo 11 Commems - Released January 24th, 2019

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 Posted 01/12/2019  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bret to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good point basebal21. It's far more difficult to bring new collectors actively in to the hobby when the coins seem to be going up up up in price. There's no way that a proof clad Kennedy half should be $28. The initial innovation proof dollar was only $7. It kind of reminds me of NASCAR. As the fan base got older, they could afford to go to more races. The price of the tickets went up with the increase in demand. Eventually, the largely older fan base started going to races less (just not as active of dying) and NASCAR found that young people were not interested in the sport near as much as their parents or grandparents. While there are certainly other factors involved, high ticket prices definitely had an impact on getting young adults to the races.
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(c) PREPAID ORDERS.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall accept prepaid orders for the coins minted under this Act before the issuance of such coins.
(2) DISCOUNT.—Sale prices with respect to prepaid orders under paragraph (1) shall be at a reasonable discount.


The current prices on the Mint's website are the pre-issue prices that are good for a month (until 3pm ET 25 Feb). I haven't seen anything about regular prices yet, but I expect that $1 and 50c coins will increase by $5 like previous year's coins. The 5 ozt proof and the half dollar set will increase by some amount as well. Maybe +$5 or maybe something higher?

Compared to the 2018 commemoratives the Ag Prf $1 increased $3 (+5.8%), the Ag UNC $1 increased $3 (+6.1%), the Prf and Unc 50c had no price increases.

The yet to be priced Au half eagles have HH of 1 coin each. Time to see if dealers start asking for proxy buyers.

The specs on the Ag $1 coins are still indicating 99.9% Ag. I still think this is a typo, but who knows? Maybe the Mint is changing the composition of the commemorative dollars (the PL says not less than 90%, so it could be 99.9% and not be a typo). The coin's diameter is still 1.5 inches, so if they are 99.9% Ag (instead of the normal 90%) then they aren't being struck on ASE blanks.
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Good point basebal21. It's far more difficult to bring new collectors actively in to the hobby when the coins seem to be going up up up in price


I wasn't even thinking of new collectors, rather just how crazy it is for an ungraded one to cost that much right off the bat. I used to like the half series a lot but between terrible themes/designs and the rising prices I gave it up a while back and decided it was better to just pick and choose which ones.

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specs on the Ag $1 coins are still indicating 99.9% Ag. I still think this is a typo, but who knows?




This is what it says on the description:

Starting this year, the standard silver dollar will be 99.9% silver. Pervious commemorative silver dollars were 90/10 silver, 90% silver, 10% copper.
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After seeing those prices, I'm going to reconsider
what I buy. Way to much.
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Starting this year, the standard silver dollar will be 99.9% silver.

Good catch wyzeguy

Ag $1 will now have .859 ozt of Ag vs the old .773. At least we're getting a $1.3 or so more Ag value for that $3 price increase.

With this change, can it be much longer before the Mint just uses ASE blanks for the commemorative dollars? I can see them lobbying congress now to change future laws to increase the diameter
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So to get one of each of those offerings the total will be $439.70. The gold ones will probably be somewhere around $400.
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So to get one of each of those offerings the total will be $439.70.


I can't see any reason to buy the clad outside of the set.
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I will get the proof dollar along with the proof half dollar set at least. That Kennedy is a reverse proof, so I am sure it will only be in this set.

I may or may not add the uncirculated half and dollar.
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I am also going after the 1.5 inch proof dollar and proof half dollar set since it has the special Kennedy half dollar in it.

Has the mint ever done the same design across all of the product offerings (gold, silver, and clad) before?
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The gold ones will probably be somewhere around $400.

With Au currently in the $1250 - $1299.99 range, the Mint's 2018 pricing table would price the Au $5 Prf at $423.75 and the $5 Unc at $413.25 (should be less $5 each during the month long pre-release period).

There might not be an increase in the pricing table for 2019 (there wasn't between 2016 and 2017), but I wouldn't expect there to be a decrease.

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Has the mint ever done the same design across all of the product offerings (gold, silver, and clad) before?


The baseball one
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the Au $5 Prf at $423.75 and the $5 Unc at $413.25


Would that be with the surcharge included?
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I will get the proof dollar along with the proof half dollar set at least. That Kennedy is a reverse proof, so I am sure it will only be in this set


They're calling it an enhanced reverse proof. Not sure how much different it will be from a reverse proof, but definitely got my interest.
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Would that be with the surcharge included?

Yes, the Mint's pricing table indicates the out the door price and includes all surcharges.


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Has the mint ever done the same design across all of the product offerings (gold, silver, and clad) before?

The baseball one


Even more recent was just last year. The BCA coins used the same design on all coins. I'm not a fan of this and would prefer different designs on the different coins.
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