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1980 1 Cent With Large Rim Fin - What Happened?

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hello everyone. I hope you are all staying safe!

I have had this coin for a while and just had it listed as " Rim Fin". due to the huge fin, it kept puncturing the 2x2 when I put it in a binder so I kept it in the "to do" box. now many years later and with more experience under my belt, I took another look at this coin.

I didn't really notice before that the obverse (opposite of the Rim Fin) looks much like a blakesley effect with a weakening of the rim and even some dovetailing. from the side (pic 4 and 5) you can see what looks like it could be a second strike or indent strike?

please take a look and let me know what you think this is or what happened.

Thank you.
Rob

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nice coin misaligned reverse die imo
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Yes, I agree that it's an indent from a second strike; you're 4th and 5th photos show it best.

I have a similar 1963 1c, although with a slightly larger area that was double struck.




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nice coin misaligned reverse die imo


the extra metal caused from the misaligned reverse die had to go somewhere...
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thank you for the responses. now I see the MAD on the reverse and this makes sense. what I don't understand is the effect on the obverse rim, where it has a weak rim, slight dovetailing in pic 6, and the concave area on the rim in pic 4.
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Because the dies are misaligned, it could have been sheared up by the collar die if it _just_ was resting on the lip of the collar die, a mere instant before the hammer die struck. The lack of metal for the anvil die (with it being sheared away by the collar die), would behave just like a small rim clip, and not enough metal to form the rim on the obverse.
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 Posted 04/14/2020  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for the explanation SPP. I appreciate it.
Rob
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