1964 D Kennedy Half Dollar Doubled Die Obverse / DDO -005 FS-105 Stage A

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gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 12:06 am CherryPickers Guide 1964-D FS-50-1964D-105 (013.6) http://varietyvista.com/12%20Kenned...4DDDO005.htm Die Markers Report this Post to the Staff

SamCoin Pillar of the Community United States 3237 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 01:46 am Definitely a DDO, but need much better pictures to figure out which one. There are tons of very similar ones on these early Kennedys. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34425 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 06:39 am I really like that you can see the doubling on the stars near UNITED. Well done! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 96993 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 07:21 am Very nice find. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Willburton Pillar of the Community United States 2558 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 08:11 am Nice one. I don't think the stars are doubled. Their just showing a die marker. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 11:16 am Note the start that are affected are towards the rim, like we also see on the devices between the tops of the devices near the rim. That is die wear. Just like the heavy die flow on the fields making lines in the direction of the closest rim. What causes these? It the cause by the metal movement of the metal being shaped by the die over and over again and again. Same event happening during the strike. Causes wear on the dies after hundreds of thousands of strikes. It maybe a minor DDR or maybe a coin contact if that is the only one device showing this. If it were a stronger DDR, then the devices would be showing spread on them. Here is an example of the Philly DDR for that year. (I could find a Denver one that is on PCGS): Note how the corners are affected on these devices. This is the strongest areas affected. But did you not the spread is going the same direction of on the devices even during the curve of the devices. Also note that the notches are on the center of the affected devices and not on the outside edges of the devices. This is because the the spread, or the distance is slightly different between two hub processes. Here is the DDO-001 (Not saying this matches your coin, but the 'T' looked closer than DDO-005. The 005 is a QDO (Quad). If your Motto was that big, then you would have posted images of that area on your coin. How much doubling need to be present to be a match for a known die number? All of it has to match even angles have to match. I is not that die because something looks close. 1964-D DDO-001 FS-101 CoopHome: How much of the doubling have to match in order to be from that listed die number? Does being close count? Edited by coop 02/07/2022 12:19 pm Report this Post to the Staff
gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 11:42 am Thanks SamCoin,Spence, Dearborn,Willburton and coop. SamCoin I had a hard time getting pics it seems to be a rougher surface, maybe because of late stage die flow lines like coop referenced. I didn't think it was a DDR, or notice the stars or any notching, I was just showing the die marker, die gouge between the N and I. But interesting! I will have to look again. Thanks for all the info coop! Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHunter27 Pillar of the Community United States 5887 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 1:26 pm Very nice! Love this variety. -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage Report this Post to the Staff
gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 1:29 pm Thanks CoinHunter27, It's my favorite so far! Report this Post to the Staff
gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 1:42 pm @coop here are some more pics, if this is not the DDO-005 FS-105, Quad Die, I have no idea which one it would be. Everything seems like a perfect match to me including the die markers. Thanks for looking and for the information! Edited by gsp193 02/07/2022 1:45 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 1:53 pm It looks correct now. Those are the first areas to look for doubled/tripled/quad DD's is on the motto areas. The rest all come after that. Report this Post to the Staff
gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 2:43 pm Thanks for looking coop Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 189142 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 5:16 pm Nice example! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
gsp193 Pillar of the Community United States 975 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 5:54 pm Thanks jbuck! Report this Post to the Staff
SamCoin Pillar of the Community United States 3237 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 6:12 pm @spence it's a DDO, not a DDR. What you saw on the stars is just MD and reflection of light. Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsearcher Moderator United States 15469 Posts	Posted 02/07/2022 6:29 pm Nice coin and impressive that you have the patience to examine enough coins, and knowledge to know what to look for, to identify this example as a desired 1964 Kennedy half variety. To me - it's just another 90% silver half dollar. Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art Report this Post to the Staff
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1964 D Kennedy Half Dollar DDO-005 FS-105 Stage A