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1960 D 1c Die Deterioration

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I've seen this effect before but this one is more pronounced. What is this type of deterioration? Both dies are affected and it seems confined to the devices without radial die flow lines and expansion towards the rims. Sort of a 70's disco font on that date and MM.


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I like the expression : "70's disco".

My opinion on this it is :

When a Die is deteriorate and was the case to be re-worked, the high of the anvil and hammer Dies is lost. In this case the pression to the material will be lower and the flow during the strike is static. I do not have on my hand now the material striking study publish on Accademia about the deterioration of the striking devices to give you the link, but I remember that is demonstrated that the pression of the strike will demission with every strike due to the material resistance and the exchange of the metallic ions between the strike which flow with the emollient (grease).

Hope to understand what and where I want to go. Is hard to me to explain.

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Some thoughts: early-stage dryer type coin, Struck Through Grease, pounded between two pieces of leather?
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Silviosi. your explanation is satisfactory and detailed. There are a lot of possibilities even worn die.
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oddguy,
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Coin appears to have been flattened during circulation, this is not a result of die state or the mottos would be starting to merge with the rim - they are not. PMD
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Like John said. Dryer Coin. Eds. Early dryer state
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Altered surface. The flattening does not increase value as it is just damage to the coin. Just like having a blow out on your car doesn't increase the value of that tire. (just the opposite)
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Thanks for the responses. It is a little puzzling that the rim seems undamaged by the dryer or whatever caused this. The FG is also flattened which seems strange since it is in between the memorial and rim.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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Post mint damage.
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I'm on board with early stage Dryer Coin. I've seen a few dozen very similar examples--various dates--over many years of searching.
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Age, gravity and circulation reeks havoc on us all.... I wake up and feel flattened like this every morning.
Agree with coin Die Deterioration and circulation damage.
Still, to your point Hawaii, the damage seems uniformly consistent.

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Given the overall condition of the field and devices, I would say hammered dog sh**
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Have to agree with flattened maybe as john1 says between leather.
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I'm in the Dryer Coin category.
(Hammered while sandwiched between leather seems to be a distinct possibility as well.)
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