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1884 IHC Verdigris Experiment

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 Posted 10/07/2023  8:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
A while back I mentioned that I had bought another coin to experiment on. A decent EF45 coin with some issues - just what I wanted. Here are the results so far.
First two pics are seller's pics on-line.Next pic (4-split) compares my pictures of the coin as received (on the right) with the coin after using acetone, VerdiCare and Classic Coin Conditioner. Last set is using all three again with a gentle wet toothpick under high magnification. I was particularly interested in the reverse verdigris and trying to lessen it. Can't see it getting any better than this. Thoughts?
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 Posted 10/07/2023  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, that persistent reverse verdigris spot really hurts this coin.
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 Posted 10/07/2023  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
True, but other results good. I'd like to understand the chemistry of verdigris better. This is a nice coin, but the verdigris really hurts it.
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 Posted 10/07/2023  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks a lot better than it did before.
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Well done for sure!
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 Posted 10/08/2023  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
you did as good as job as probably could be done cleaning this up.

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 Posted 10/08/2023  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Brandmeister, for that link. Great reading and spot-on as to what I'm trying to learn about. Much appreciated.
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I wanted to update this link. I've been trying a few ideas to further neutralize the verdigris and gently remove the greenish scale. This coin was a good test for this process. I have resoaked in acetone to remove any other chemicals. I have also continued to use targeted applications of both Verdicare and Classic Coiin Conditioner with mild agitation with a soaked toothpick. This is the final result of my testing on this coin. Can't see anything else I could do without being too aggressive. I'm not dissatisfied with the result, but I'm eager to learn more about this. Comments welcome.
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 Posted 10/25/2023  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good effort, but unfortunately still a details coin. Worth less than $10 I'd guess.
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 Posted 10/25/2023  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fantastic results!!!

If it is just a test coin and you want to make additional - non-agressive attempts (IMHO) - you might consider a weak (2-3%) sodium sesquicarbonate solution for 3-6 hours. It could help lift that final staining without impacting anything else. If the Reverse rim is well-defined you could probably spot apply on the rear as opposed to a whole coin dunk - distilled water based so no viscosity to solution. Wet qtip agitation at end of soak too. Optional repeat at a longer interval - or up the solution a % or two - if comfortable. I always seal with VC as a final step after a 24-hr dryout.
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 Posted 11/07/2023  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's improved but will still be a "details" coin.
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