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 Posted 01/01/2011  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 78-S series has its own troubles, so much so a book has been written to attribute it...Some clues for this VAM-IT.......are as follows...

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But its new years.. and still no takers or talkers?
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Gene, had to pop the bubbly with the wife, and take in the thanks for all we have and what we can look forward to. Happy New Year to all.
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It's all good.......that is what its all about
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Gene, is the reed count 181, please, yes or no?
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The 78-S series has its own troubles, so much so a book has been written to attribute it..

And its the most confusing book ever written about the 1878 date of Morgans Dollars EVER. I know it was written by LVA and another but its the worst put together book I have in my collection. The 8TF and 7/8Tf books are sooooooooooo much nicer than this turd
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Vams For Money states, " Quote:
You get a whole different perspective of the study of VAMs (dies) by lining up multiple examples of the same die marriage and looking at them side-by-side.'

I would venture a guess most would be amazed at the actual path you could follow, having this occur, I mean you would see EDS'S of one die and another different looking die, that has been "repaired", and after looking closely would see a small die chip or gouge that at first you would say this die is different from the 1st, till you really inspected the dies and found while the repair was made it is actually the SAME die, with the same small nuances as the other die.
I mean to say, NOT all dies that at first glance "looking different", are actually one in the same and one would be considered and EDS, and another a LDS coin.

I am amazed at the actual path progressions I have seen and still get excited finding another die's progression on a sweet Morgan silver dollar.......
I was assisted by a fellow Vammer in finding a reason for the states in which a VAM was called lets say a VAM 84 and the 84A, I have found that there are basically one major difference between the two Vams, the partially clashed letter " E " and thought there were and EDS and A LDS of the VAM 84 but have come to realize the progression goes the VAM 84, EDS, the VAM 84 Lds, then the VAM 84A EDS, with the clashed E, the 84A Lds and then the VAM from wear, would become the worn out 84A which would then become the VAM 84 AGAIN, because after the partial clashed E was worn away, you would be left with no more "visible" evidence of the E and it would be looked at as the 84, did I explain that alright....

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I'm so lost in all of this.
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has no one gotten this one yet? I didn't read backwards so not sure because I don't want to get sucked into giving it away if it hasn't
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Maybe!!! 181 count?
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I did a reed count with carbon paper, I get about 187 reeds.I should be very close...
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The broken star and "R" are a hub defect and is why so many have this feature. And on the 1878 S type coins it is the starting point of the funnel to Vamming one.

Looking at the date it has a doubled "7" and the toilet bowl is on right now.... Or some other bowl I can't keep track as there are so many now. So I will revisit this in a little bit.
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Vam-46 Worm eye
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Did you base that solely on the reed count Russ?

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That sounded more matter of factly than it did a guess.... Since this is a learning thread, could you fill in the lesser skilled of us on your lock in pup(s)?

(Just kidding about the reed count thing)..
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Once you narrow it down to the broken star and broken "R" of the 2b reveres type, as it is not a long nock. You have 34 choices, I next look for something on the coin that should not be there (ie;not a hub defect). In this case you have a doubled 7 and a gouge to the right of the eye. I then check if any of the die markers are listed in a title in the 34 or so sum types.

In this case the description is listed as a worm eye and the gouge in the photo is a dead match.

It did not hurt to have one in hand to look at in hand
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