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Posted 05/29/2011 11:47 am
Hi, new to the forum and thought i'd reply to this topic particularly as I collect Victoria Pennies. Couple of pointers, 1st you'll never find a 1933 Penny, only 7-12 were struck which were put into the foundation stones of a few buildings. 1 of these was stolen a while ago, so if it ever came onto the market then the authorities would know who stole it and reclaim it.
The 1827 Penny was only intended for Australia, unfortunately the ship carrying those at the time sank, hence the fact you don't see virtually any in grades above VF, a UK dealer had one in a stunning UNC which was sold to an Ameriacn buyer for 14,000 GBP
George III pennies are quite common due to the great recoinage of the time and were probably over minted, 1p and 2p Cartwheeel 1797 are common as heck and only the genuine UNC coins would command a Spink book price.
A collector of pennies would never use a coincraft book, it's not specialist enough for the Victoria series which is (as has been said) very complex, 2 books you should buy is The Bronze Coinage Of Great Britain by Michael J Freeman, this is now 25 years old, another whch has recently as 2 years ago thats been updated is the Michael Gouby book "The British Bronze Penny" in there you will see 24 different die pairings for 1860 alone.
The concept that 1912H is a rare coin is a genuine myth, 1918KN and 1919KN are rare but in grades higher than VF+, anything less are quite common. The whole victoria series will give you headache, my advice would be to just collect 1 from each year. 1882 no H is extremely rare, if you ever find one you will be lucky as there is only 8 known. 1869 and 1871 are rarer coins, the 69 the rarer of the 2 and you'd probably pay around 1500 to 2000 for an EF example 1875H is only rare in high grades.
Anyway, hope that small bit of info helps, my advice would be to first purchase the Michael Gouby book and read on the series first, there's a lot to take in with the Victoria Bunhead series. Forgot to mention, 1902 Low tide is not extremely rare, probably just rare, then the 1895 Low Tide 2mm from P in Penny Victoria and the 1903 open 3 (very rare)
If you require a few pictures then feel free to ask, might I also say that collecting Victoria Pennies in low grades you will find in abundance, the satisfaction is finding them in high grades.
The 1827 Penny was only intended for Australia, unfortunately the ship carrying those at the time sank, hence the fact you don't see virtually any in grades above VF, a UK dealer had one in a stunning UNC which was sold to an Ameriacn buyer for 14,000 GBP
George III pennies are quite common due to the great recoinage of the time and were probably over minted, 1p and 2p Cartwheeel 1797 are common as heck and only the genuine UNC coins would command a Spink book price.
A collector of pennies would never use a coincraft book, it's not specialist enough for the Victoria series which is (as has been said) very complex, 2 books you should buy is The Bronze Coinage Of Great Britain by Michael J Freeman, this is now 25 years old, another whch has recently as 2 years ago thats been updated is the Michael Gouby book "The British Bronze Penny" in there you will see 24 different die pairings for 1860 alone.
The concept that 1912H is a rare coin is a genuine myth, 1918KN and 1919KN are rare but in grades higher than VF+, anything less are quite common. The whole victoria series will give you headache, my advice would be to just collect 1 from each year. 1882 no H is extremely rare, if you ever find one you will be lucky as there is only 8 known. 1869 and 1871 are rarer coins, the 69 the rarer of the 2 and you'd probably pay around 1500 to 2000 for an EF example 1875H is only rare in high grades.
Anyway, hope that small bit of info helps, my advice would be to first purchase the Michael Gouby book and read on the series first, there's a lot to take in with the Victoria Bunhead series. Forgot to mention, 1902 Low tide is not extremely rare, probably just rare, then the 1895 Low Tide 2mm from P in Penny Victoria and the 1903 open 3 (very rare)
If you require a few pictures then feel free to ask, might I also say that collecting Victoria Pennies in low grades you will find in abundance, the satisfaction is finding them in high grades.
Great stuff and good info.
andy, you seem to live in the UK, if you've never heard about the 1933 stolen penny then you need to get out more, its common knowledge and was also highlighted on the BBCs the One show last year.
What a shame. 
