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Ever Hear About The Slabs Being Forged?

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 Posted 07/14/2011  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Freedom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The new NGC slabs all have distict arrows on the top, bottom and sides. The arrows/triangles all point to the obverse of the coin. I wish I could go and grab one to explain more in depth but I am in a place where I can't get to them.

That was one of NGC's anti-counterfieting measures they took in 2008 when they made their press release.
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 Posted 07/14/2011  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not sure where I have heard this but they might of tried forging a slab with an inflated grade and a genuine coin.
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 Posted 07/15/2011  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know of any fake slabs with real coins in them at inflated grades since the original PCGS rattler fakes but it could easily be done and would probably make the fake slab easier to pass. As long as the grade difference isn't extreme.
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 Posted 07/15/2011  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rayman311 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This topic has me a bit uneasy. So much for the increased confidence factor tied to buying top TPG slabs. Are there certain coins being targeted? I've seen threads on Trade dollars and Bust Halves and Dollars. What should I look for in a faked slab?

I recently purchased three slabbed coins, and this caused me to do some more investigating. Havent heard of issues with Half/Large cents, and I did locate my NGC 1810/09 Large cent on Heritage (from ebay). I can't seem to get info from PCGS since I'm not a member for my 1802 Large cent. I bought it from S. Yancey so I feel good about it. The last one is an 1804 Half Cent Spiked chin which is in route (from ebay). Not sure that one would be faked but I'm a bit uneasy overall since I'm unsure what signs to look for.

Bryan's slab pics look pretty darn good. Good enough to fool a fool like me. Thank you for all your expertise. I learn something new every time I browse this forum.

Ray
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 Posted 07/28/2011  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The latest faked slabs are now so good I'd guess many dealers and collectors have some and really don't know. They are not only coming from China but some are being made right here.
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So my bottom line is this two coins being equal what does the slab artificially add to the price of the coin that is slabbed? and since I have never done it what does it cost to slab a coin with a reputable service?
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NGC (maybe others) do this thing now where they take a picture of the coin in the slab before sending it out so when you go to the web site to verify the cert you can see that the coin and slab matches the one for sale. I think it's optional and an extra fee though, and for some coins the coin/image might not be distinctive enough to tell for sure.

A Mercury dime I got recently had this done when it was slabbed, and it had distinctive enough toning that I could see it was the same coin and that it hadn't been toned while in the slab (not that a 1945-D Mercury dime is really worth faking...)
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I think it's optional and an extra fee though, and for some coins the coin/image might not be distinctive enough to tell for sure.

Not optional, no extra charge. They now do this for every coin they slab. Yes, from my understanding the recent photos are enlargeable soo you can see the coin better. This was not true of the early photos.
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