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With this new news, I'll bet the TPG's are going to require sealed boxes to be sent now if you want the set designiation on the slabs. Since there will be no way to tell what set the S-Mint proof came from.
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Quote:With this new news, I'll bet the TPG's are going to require sealed boxes to be sent now if you want the set designiation on the slabs.Since there will be no way to tell what set the S-Mint proof came from. by sealed boxes, do you mean the mint shipping package or the sealed set inside the shipping box? Also, if they are not taking orders for the new SF proof till 8/7/2012, then couldn't you still open the sets and send them in prior to August 7th? Erik
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Quote: by sealed boxes, do you mean the mint shipping package or the sealed set inside the shipping box? Also, if they are not taking orders for the new SF proof till 8/7/2012, then couldn't you still open the sets and send them in prior to August 7th? Sealed box, as received from the US Mint. I'm sure the TPG's will be releasing their "rules" soon! I think we've all be had on this deal!    Curse you, US Mint!  I'd just cancel my order if I didn't love these stinkin' silver eagles so dang much! 
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If that is true, it is interesting to note that the mint will be selling one of those two coins for not half but less than half the price. And the $72.95 price would include a $5 note as well. As if the mint was clearly admitting that they over charged the rest of us for the two coin set.
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just got off the phone with PCGS... any coins from this set can be sent in to them opened as long as the package you send them is postmarked before their FS designation cutoff date. This is not just for the FS but if you want them designated as the 75th Anni set. Anything sent in after the FS cutoff will have to be in the original mint shipping package for them to designate it as the 75th Anni set. Hope this helps some... Still very upset at the mint, and also upset that any set ordered outside of the first ship date of 7/27 cannot be cherrypicked and must be sent in blind to get them holdered as a set.
Erik
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Bedrock of the Community
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Talk you can thank the Mint for putting the S proof in another set so that PCGS can no longer tell where it came from. That is a shame about not getting to cherry pick.
I also agree with Almost this does also devalue the set since now one of the coins can be had cheaper and more of them. The RP is really the only reason to have gotten the set and like I've mentioned before, especially knowing this set is on the way, Id rather just buy the RP on its own
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I am keep down the same path as before. Does anyone know if they are gonna do a two coin slab for the set like they did for the 2006 set?
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Quote: Does anyone know if they are gonna do a two coin slab for the set like they did for the 2006 set?
As far as I know PCGS got rid of their multi coin slabs, I've seen some recent NGC ones but cant remember the exact year and they may have stopped doing it as well
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I don't see anywhere that is says that it will include an S mint proof coin. Maybe I am missing something or it is stated elsewhere. The product page refers to the "2012 American Eagle Silver Proof Coin" which is technically the W mint version.
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Quote: This 2012 American Eagle Silver Proof Coin not only honors the artistry and design of our Nation's coins, but also honors the heritage of coin production at the United States Mint at San Francisco. We're assuming it's an S mint proof from this statement in the first paragraph of the description.
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I understand that but when the mint says that the coin "honors the artistry and design of our Nation's coins, but also honors the heritage of coin production at the United States Mint at San Francisco" they are not saying that the coin is minted in SF. CoinNews.net says it is an 2012-S proof but they appear to be basing this solely on their reading of the product page as well. Silver Coins Today makes the same claim but is basing their determination that it is an S mint proof on the CoinNews.net article. I couldn't find any information that was not based on anything other than the product page, which does not state the mint of origin for the coin. Most articles relied on the CoinNews.net article which made the leap of faith and called it an S mint proof. We should be told by the mint soon as to exactly which coin will be included but I suspect that it will be the W mint coin which is in regular production, being minted to demand and not the S mint coin but at this time my guess is no better than anyone else's.
Again, "2012 American Eagle Silver Proof Coin" is the nomenclature used by the mint and in the Federal Register (when setting the original price at $59.95) to mean the West Point Coin.
Edited by clairhardesty 07/19/2012 01:21 am
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I agree with you, that's why I used the word assuming. Until the mint releases the details everything is speculation. But I still believe it will be an S mint, whether it will have the mint mark or not is yet to be discovered. Why would they commend the San Francisco mint specifically if it wasn't coming from there? Does the San Francisco mint create the dies for West Point? If so then I might lean more towards what you say.
But yea, everything is guesswork until the mint releases more details, which should be soon.
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Pillar of the Community
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A proof coin will absolutely have a mint mark and that mark will be that of the mint where the coin is struck. I don't think that SF currently produces any die itself but I could be wrong. I think that most of the special die (proof and uncirculated) come from a dedicated facility. I will say that this is another example of very poorly planned product introduction by the mint. The product page should state with no room for doubt which mint will be striking the coin, even if it is a "preliminary" page .
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Ah true, not sure what I was thinking haha.
Well all we can do now is wait. Either way I'm not buying this set as I don't have any interest in the FRN.
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Quote: honors the heritage of coin production at the United States Mint at San Francisco I just dont see how a coin can be honoring San Francisco by not being produced there when it isn't in any way a commemorative of San Francisco. I couldnt agree more the mint should have just put the product info in already as they know full well which coin will be in the set. If youre right and it is a W then that has to be the most poorly worded description written in the history of coins. Theres no reason the SF mint should even be mentioned in the description
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