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2013 ASE Pre-Sale

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I see where some sites are already selling (or pre-selling I should say) 2013 ASEs. One struck in W, One struck in SF, and one that is without any indication on the label. Is the one without any indication the "W" burnished uncirculated coin? If not, what is it? I just want to make sure I purchase at least one of each of the 2013 ASEs, wanting to make sure I don't miss anything. Am I missing anything here?

1. Bullion ( West Point struck )
2. Bullion ( SF struck )
3. Proof West Point
4. Burnished uncirculated West Point
5. Reverse proof West Point
6. An uncirculated version that will differ from the regular uncirculated version with the "W" mintmark in the West Point set

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Sounds about right, 6 different graded coins and 5 different raw coins.
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The only SAEs that will be available in the next couple weeks will be the bullion versions, struck sans mintmark at both West Point and San Francisco.
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Also 2013-W proof coin starting sales on January 24th.
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I think that is correct.
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Your list looks good to me....


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One struck in W, One struck in SF, and one that is without any indication on the label. Is the one without any indication the "W" burnished uncirculated coin? If not, what is it?


All three of those are the same coin. One minted in SF, one minted at West Point and one minted at either of those two. The labels are the only way to tell them apart. Definitely not a burnished W.
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The ones without the W are the bullion ones. They have to be sent in unopened monster boxes from the mint to get the (W) or the (S) on the label. They arent the same coin and are exactly what they say they are but theyre the ones that a good number of ASE collectors go without.
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OK, so all 3 coins up for pre-sell are bullion and the one that doesn't indicate minted in West Point or minted in SF is just a bullion coin that could have been minted at either one of those sites. Is that a correct statement?
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Yea you got it right. Theyre all the bullion version, unless its a special set or they announce differently the uncirculated one will have the W mint mark on the back
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Also 2013-W proof coin starting sales on January 24th.


Thanks for the correction, that is really early for the proofs.
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Thanks for the correction, that is really early for the proofs.


Or 23 days to late
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Oh, how I love ASE's. Will end up with multiples of each 2013 offering this year, methinks. And very much looking forward to the West Point set. So we have two coins in this one like the 2012 sets -- they are going to be RP and a special UNC (coins 5&6 in Teach's list above)?

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Celtic yea thats what it sounds like from their release. How the uncir will be different is going to be interesting to see
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They arent the same coin and are exactly what they say they are but theyre the ones that a good number of ASE collectors go without.


So if I take an ASE from the SF mint and one from the West Point Mint and put them next to each other... and give you an hour or so...you could tell the difference between the two? If you can't then I would rest my case that they are, thus, the same coin type...albeit with two (or three) different labels.

Now if I was to put a 2012 S proof ASE next to a 2012 W proof ASE I bet it would take you 4 seconds to tell the difference...thus...different coins

Some collectors collect coins...some collect labels...

Just sayin'

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I do not want to start anything here about buying labels, but even if you can't tell where they were minted, they were minted in different mints, thus they are not the same geographic coin. I know I won't be able to tell the difference but I will know they are in fact different. In my mind I don't think I am buying a label, I am buying a coin minted at a different mint than where the other bullion coins are minted. Just my opinion and how I will go about collecting ASEs. To each their own I always say. Maybe we will get lucky and one of them will be a variety coin.
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If you can't then I would rest my case that they are, thus, the same coin type


It doesn't matter, one is made in West Point the other in San Francisco. By the logic theres no reason to ever collect anything but a date set.

Also just because you cant tell the difference doesn't mean theyre arent people who can. The mint can tell you exactly where the came from when they ship it out. So should new collectors just start collecting fakes since theyre cheaper? After all they cant tell the difference
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