1936 Dot Penny Found! "12/06/2012"

bibd {quote } Besides, it seems like you will only accept opinions if they agree with your findings. That's a real shame. { unquote }

I absorb all the info I am getting and its a big help.. thing is I only see people disagree " On-Line ", everyone that looked at My Dot Penny and Seen that it is an actual Dot Penny congratulated me or was happy for me. so far

^^^ LOL. Yeah, since his homepage IS this thread.

They saw it was a dot on a penny. They can't possibly be expert enough to know it is a genuine 1936 1 cent dot. I doubt any of us on here are expert enough to validate an authentic example. The skepticism comes from a history of false claims, lots of fakes, and the staggering statistics against it being real.

If it is real it is going to cost you some serious coin to get it authenticated. Nobody is going to give you anything beyond a pittance (no pun intended) unless it is authenticated. But, the friendly skeptics don't want to encourage you to waste any money.

I trust you understand how extraordinary your claim is? Extraordinary claims required extraordinary proof.

So, can any of these people so sure it is real take a good photo?

Some interesting reading about 1936 dots and whether there was ever the shortage that is used to support the existence of the 1c and 10c:

http://1936dots.blogspot.ca/ (in reverse order, so read them last to first)

When threads collide:

This got me thinking about the 1936 25c dot and how it ties in with the current discussions about the 2007 CPZ, and how perhaps the numbers allow us to calculate a upper bound on the number of 1936 25c dots made.

The issue comes down to how the mint reported production in 1937. Even today we have the same issue. Did the mint produce 2006 CPZ coinage into 2007, and reported those numbers in the 2007 CPZ production figures? Otherwise, where are the 9+ million 2007 CPZ that the mint reports having produced?

If the mint produced 1936 dated coins in 1937, they might simply be reported as 1937 production without any split from 1937 dated coins. This is supported by comparing the value report from 1937, with the mint's current mintage numbers (http://www.mint.ca/store/mint/learn...nts-5300010)

1936: 1,125,779 (= $281,444.75) reported as $242,000
1937: 2,689,813 (= $672,453.25) reported as $711,900

1936 + 1937: $953,898 (value from mintages) $953,000 (from 1937 mint report). So, these seem to reconcile.

Hypothesis: ($711,900 - $672,453.25) * 4 ~= 157,788 1936 dated 25c were produced in 1937. These might have been all dots, or a split of 1936 and 1936 dots. There is no way of knowing. But, that number would seem to be jive well with the scarcity of the 1936 dot relative to regular 1936.

Well, according to the philosophy of Dean (Silver).... it is a penny, and it does have a dot on it....

O.k so my partner arrived with the news.

This morning around 9:30 am.. my partner and his dad walked into The Coin Cabinet located in Moncton.
My partner said the guy at the counter gave them a weird look as they walked in.
my partner said " he looked intimidated by me for some reason maybe cause I'm native?"
so he said to the guy at Coin Cabinet... I think I have a 1936 DOT penny.
He looked at the coin for " 3 seconds " Literally..
he replied " nope its not a dot penny you have Nothing here. " my partners father said How sure are you? He said 100% sure with a 3 second look at the coin.

To me.. the guy at the counter was intimidated by my partner & father because they were native. he took 3 a 3 second look without loop. I believe he just wanted them to leave the store. his mind was made up before he even viewed the coin.

anyways... interesting thing is..

Later that day My partner went to " The Parlour " in moncton.
There is a worker there who is a Long time coin Collector, he asked to view the coin... With a good 2 - 4 minute look at the penny with X 8 The guy said.. " wow you actually might have something here, But I cant certify it" my partner said his eyes grew wide and was very very happy for us. He then took out a book with the 1936 dot penny and said Everything matches even the weight 3.24Grams is a Match, with the smudge, dot is at PERFECT spot. :)

so now my partner is looking for a Top of the line camera to take good pictures.

in the meantime.. Does anyone know where else I could get this certified?

What is the name of the best coin shop in fredericton? and also.. " Would the Mint in Ottawa certify it? "

I believe that all of the 1936 dot pennies that remain were found in specimen condition. How could you find one in harshly circulated condition?
What would be the trend for one in VG?