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How Far Back Can We Go? Fourth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

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 Posted 05/12/2018  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Quite a chin on Charles--sorta reminds me of Leopold I..


Runs in the family (Hapsburg mandibular prognathism).
Leopold was the great great grandson of Ferdinand I, who was Charles' brother.

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1526 -- Hungary, 1 denar:

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I do have a couple of 1526's not in previous editions.

1. 1526 C-Lily Hungarian Denar under King Louis II with a Gothic C in the mint mark;Huszar 841,Unger 673i,Pohl 255-24.

2. 1526 N-G Hungarian Denar under King Louis II;Huszar 841,Unger 673.alpha,Pohl 255-28.
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Very nice @ED! Here is my Pfennig from the German City of Regensburg dated 1526 AD. It is similar to Schulten 2843.


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1525 -- Hungary, 1 denar:

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@eddiediz,
Since I'm new to these threads and still learning, can you provide some background on the different letters flanking the Madonna? Are those mints? Mintmaster/engraver?

Thanks in advance. And thanks for posting something other than K B which is what all the rest of us seem to have.
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Here is my uniface 2 Pfennig from the Austrian State of Salzburg dated (1)525 AD. It is attributed as Schulten 4320 and Probst 281.


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1524 -- Schweidnitz, 1/2 groschen:

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I've got one of those coming up in a few days. It came in a lot of Polish coins, and I had some trouble figuring it out, since I was not so familiar with Hungarian/Bohemain monarchs of the time (and because it looks just like a Polish half groschen).
Quite an interesting area of central Europe from both a historical and numismatic viewpoint. Five mints operating in Silesia at this time within a stone's throw of each other, usually under different local lords and/or overlords: Breslau, Brieg, Glogau, Liegnitz, and Schweidnitz (or for those who prefer the current less pronounceable Polish forms: Wroclaw, Brzeg, Glogow, Legnica and Swidnica).
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Both of these are 1524 Lily-Lily/L-C Hungarian Denars minted in Kassa under King Louis II;Huszar 846,Unger 675c,Pohl 258-3. The first has a reverse 2 in the date and the second a normal 2. Ironically,the normal 2 is the less common one.

In the previous post,the C-Lily was minted in Kassa and the N-G in Nagybanya. They are more scarce mint marks than the K-B which is the most common minted in Kremnitz.

I will have a couple more later after waiting to see if anyone else is going to post one.

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I will have a couple more later after waiting to see if anyone else is going to post one.


Here is my Akce from Ottoman Turkey dated AH 926 (roughly 1524 AD). It is attributed as Album A 1315.


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The first has a reverse 2 in the date and the second a normal 2. Ironically,the normal 2 is the less common one.


Not to mention the old style 4 which I think is the first we've seen?
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The first is a 1524 L-K Hungarian Denar under King Louis II minted in Kremnitz (Ludovicus-Kremnitz) with a reverse 2 in the date. I have the version with the normal date also,but the pictures are in my old computer. Huszar 846,Unger 675e. This variant is not recorded as far as I know.


The second is a 1524 L-3 under King Louis II minted in Zagrab with points surrounding the digits in the date. I have the version with small circles surrounding the digits,but the pictures are in my old computer;Huszar 853,Unger 677c,Pohl 258-10.
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1523 -- Lithuania, 1/2 groat:


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Finally a larger sized silver from me: 1 Batzen from the German Free City of Isny dated (15)23 AD. It is attributed as Saurma 1516 and Schulten 1383.


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