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The Goal: 25,000 Rolls Of Nickels (All Searchers Welcome!)

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 Posted 05/09/2008  02:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Apologies for that being hard to read - tab doesn't show up in the posted messages I guess.

Anyway, here are some remarks:

1. Methodology: This used the 5000 roll data of Coppernickeldaddy. To determine the predicted value, I took the sum of all nearby dates found, divided by the sum of their mintages, and multiplied by the mintage of the given date. What do I mean by 'nearby'? I used roughly a 3-4 year interval centered about the date, except that I separated pre-silver Jeffersons and silver Jeffersons as two bins on their own.

2. Drawbacks: It is false to assume all dates decay uniformly like this. For instance, 1950D has a strange history. These were specifically hoarded, as I seem to recall reading in the Red Book. I wouldn't be surprised if other semi-keys (e.g. 39D) were pulled by collectors way back in the 1950s. Also, the big chunk of 1958Ds found skews the data a bit. Finally, it goes without saying that the sample size of nickels (though huge) is perhaps too limited to draw concrete conclusions.

3. Comments: Of the ten lowest mintage dates (none of which are silver), only 1950 -- in 9th place -- and 1948S -- in 10th place -- were observed more than their predicted value. Amazingly, 1958 -- the 14th rarest mintage -- greatly exceeds its prediction! And the winner is...

1952S !

This was counted true to its prediction, up to one decimal place!
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 Posted 05/09/2008  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeremymh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK!
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 Posted 05/15/2008  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As promised a week or so ago, (but not delivered until NOW!) here are TWO updates! Enjoy!

100 rolls
39 pre-1959
1 Silver Nickel (1943P (one of the most beat-up coins you will ever see!))

1 Tanzania 50 Senti (1990)

GRAND TOTALS TO DATE:

5400 rolls
2259 pre 1959 (5 most common: 1958d(217),1957d(177),1941(162),1940(149),1946(122)
86 silver nickels (3 most common: 1943P(19),1945P(16),1943S(16)
13 Buffalo nickels ((4)dateless,1920,1924,(2)1927,1928,1929,1929s,1935,1938d)
2 Proof (1987s,1993s)
3 Bermuda 5 cents (1970,1987,1996)
4 Bahamas 5 cents (1981,1998,(2)2000)
1 Belgium 1 Franc (1975)
1 Cayman Islands 10 Cents (2002)
1 Germany 50 Pfennig (1972)
1 Latvia 1 Lats (1992)
1 Mexico 50 Centavos (1993)
1 Norway 1 Kroner (1997)
1 Somalia 5 Shillings (2000)
2 Switzerland 20 Rappen (1969,1970)
1 Unidentified foreign coin (no date)
1 Cincinnati Ohio Transit Token

NEEDED TO COMPLETE SET:

38d,39d,43D,44S,50d


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 Posted 05/15/2008  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NOTE: IGNORE THAT LAST UPDATE (hit the wrong key and sent the complete wrong info!!
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 Posted 05/15/2008  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the correct update.

100 rolls
41 pre-1959
1 Silver Nickel (1942P)
1 Liberty nickel (1901)
1 Proof (2007S)
1 Tanzania 50 Senti (1990)

GRAND TOTALS TO DATE:

5400 rolls
2261 pre 1959 (5 most common: 1958d(220),1957d(182),1941(165),1940(152),1946(123)
87 silver nickels (3 most common: 1943P(19),1945P(16),1943S(16)
1 Liberty nickel (1901)
13 Buffalo nickels ((4)dateless,1920,1924,(2)1927,1928,1929,1929s,1935,1938d)
3 Proof (1987s,1993s,2007s)
3 Bermuda 5 cents (1970,1987,1996)
4 Bahamas 5 cents (1981,1998,(2)2000)
1 Belgium 1 Franc (1975)
1 Cayman Islands 10 Cents (2002)
1 Germany 50 Pfennig (1972)
1 Latvia 1 Lats (1992)
1 Mexico 50 Centavos (1993)
1 Norway 1 Kroner (1997)
1 Somalia 5 Shillings (2000)
2 Switzerland 20 Rappen (1969,1970)
1 Tanzania 50 Senti (1990)
1 Unidentified foreign coin (no date)
1 Cincinnati Ohio Transit Token

NEEDED TO COMPLETE SET:

38d,39d,43D,44S,50d


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 Posted 05/15/2008  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the second update. I actually have two boxes to go through tonight, so there should be another update in a day or so!

100 rolls
55 pre-1959
2 Silver Nickels (1943P,1943S)
1 Liberty nickel (1905) Yes, two straight updates with a Liberty nickel!
1 Buffalo nickel (1937)

GRAND TOTALS TO DATE:

5500 rolls
2316 pre 1959 (5 most common: 1958d(226),1957d(185),1941(168),1940(157),1946(126)
89 Silver Nickels (3 most common: 1943P(20),1943S(17),1945P(16)
2 Liberty nickels (1901,1905)
14 Buffalo nickels ((4)dateless,1920,1924,(2)1927,1928,1929,1929s,1935,1937,1938d)
3 Proof (1987s,1993s,2007s)
3 Bermuda 5 cents (1970,1987,1996)
4 Bahamas 5 cents (1981,1998,(2)2000)
1 Belgium 1 Franc (1975)
1 Cayman Islands 10 Cents (2002)
1 Germany 50 Pfennig (1972)
1 Latvia 1 Lats (1992)
1 Mexico 50 Centavos (1993)
1 Norway 1 Kroner (1997)
1 Somalia 5 Shillings (2000)
2 Switzerland 20 Rappen (1969,1970)
1 Tanzania 50 Senti (1990)
1 Unidentified foreign coin (no date)
1 Cincinnati Ohio Transit Token

NEEDED TO COMPLETE SET:

38d,39d,43D,44S,50d

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 Posted 05/15/2008  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i went through 3 boxes this past week and found a total of 7 silver nickels and one 1926 partial date buffalo. Although one of the boxes was a dud, 6 of the silver came from one box, the most ive found in a single box so far.
congrats on the v nickles cnd I havent found one of those in a while, what kind of condition are they in?
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 Posted 05/15/2008  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both are plain old Good w/full rims. Interesting how the rims are full but there are areas of weak detail. But if I remember correctly, this type wore like that frequently.
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 Posted 05/15/2008  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And, XoG, congrats on the great Silver box!
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 Posted 05/16/2008  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another Update!

100 rolls
59 pre-1959
2 Silver Nickels (1944P,1945S)
1 Buffalo nickel (1928s)
1 Proof (1974s)
1 Bermuda 5 Cents (1986)

A well-circulated 1961d with a small straight planchet clip at 7 o'clock

GRAND TOTALS TO DATE:

5600 rolls
2375 pre 1959 (5 most common: 1958d(233),1957d(187),1941(170),1940(162),1946(128)
91 Silver Nickels (3 most common: 1943P(20),1943S(17),1945P(16)
2 Liberty nickels (1901,1905)
15 Buffalo nickels ((4)dateless,1920,1924,(2)1927,1928,1928s,1929,1929s,1935,1937,1938d)
4 Proof (1974s,1987s,1993s,2007s)
4 Bermuda 5 cents (1970,1986,1987,1996)
4 Bahamas 5 cents (1981,1998,(2)2000)
1 Belgium 1 Franc (1975)
1 Cayman Islands 10 Cents (2002)
1 Germany 50 Pfennig (1972)
1 Latvia 1 Lats (1992)
1 Mexico 50 Centavos (1993)
1 Norway 1 Kroner (1997)
1 Somalia 5 Shillings (2000)
2 Switzerland 20 Rappen (1969,1970)
1 Tanzania 50 Senti (1990)
1 Unidentified foreign coin (no date)
1 Cincinnati Ohio Transit Token

NEEDED TO COMPLETE SET:

38d,39d,43D,44S,50d
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 Posted 05/16/2008  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hollywood to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How much are the 2006 reverse ASE selling for in pcgs 70 ?
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 Posted 05/20/2008  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I have been away, I have picked up a very stressful job lately and have not been able to do much forum reading but I wondered about coppernickeldaddy and the quest for a 1951 S and it appears since I have been here that one has been found. That is absolutely awesome. I wish I could find the post when you found it because I'm sure you had something to say.
Congrats!
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 Posted 05/20/2008  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Wheezy!
I found one about 1000 rolls ago, and have since found a second one.
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 Posted 05/21/2008  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
in the last box I searched found another 1951s as well, also found were two silver nickles and a large vertical misaligned die
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 Posted 05/21/2008  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just finished off another two boxes (100 rolls) this afternoon (detailed update to come) but found another 38s!! Very well worn, though.
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