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Would Anyone Counterfeit A Straits 1/4 Cent?

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 Posted 08/10/2020  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
Here's another 1904 fake Straits dollar:

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 Posted 08/10/2020  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chang to your friends list
Another attempt altering a genuine 1916 1/4 cent to pass as 10 Cents.
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 Posted 08/10/2020  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
Very nice and exactly the kind of fake I enjoy collecting and cataloging as my hobby.
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 Posted 08/10/2020  06:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chang to your friends list
Another mismatched forgery Straits 1901 Quarter cents with Edward's rather than Victoria's head.
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 Posted 08/10/2020  06:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list
Albert said

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My catalogs show the differences between the genuine & fake coins.


What catalogs are these, please, Albert?

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 Posted 08/10/2020  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list

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Very nice and exactly the kind of fake I enjoy collecting and cataloging as my hobby.
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Best part of collecting fakes is that you don't need to worry about authenticity
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 Posted 08/10/2020  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list

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Best part of collecting fakes is that you don't need to worry about authenticity


I'm sorry to disillusion you, but even fakes are counterfeited.
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 Posted 08/10/2020  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I have seen a high quality die struck fake with good luster, of a
1935 Hong Kong (Geroge V) Ten Cents, in silver.
Now, THAT is a problem - the genuine 1935 coins are struck in copper nickel!
The last date for a genuine silver Hong Kong Ten Cents is 1933

I suspect that it is a modern Chinese fake concoction, and not a contemporary fake.
Interesting, because both dates of the genuine coin are common.

Hence, the
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 Posted 08/10/2020  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list

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I'm sorry to disillusion you, but even fakes are counterfeited.


Oh cruel Coin Gods, why must you test me so...
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 Posted 08/10/2020  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list
Another curiosity I found a while back. Looks struck in Nickel but should be Copper. So is this a Genuine Counterfeit, Fake Fake or some other murky classification ?
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 Posted 08/11/2020  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list

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Would Anyone Counterfeit A Straits 1/4 Cent?


The answer to the question is yes for the Straights Settlements.

There is a possibility that mules may have been produced from old dies at the mint, however, I feel that lacking actual confirmation of die matches that the majority of mules are NOT genuine.

Some are clearly contemporaneous counterfeits intended to circulate but there are also modern numismatic forgeries in this series.

The altered genuine coins are interesting and show the lengths that dishonest people will go to make a few cents.

Pertinax I agree with your comment that even Counterfeits are copied by Numismatic Forgers. It is a definite risk when collecting "fakes".

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 Posted 08/12/2020  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I have a genuine !/12 Anna (not nickel), but gold plated.

@ Numister: What is the weight of your example?
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 Posted 08/12/2020  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chang to your friends list
Do you think this is a Mint Error or was intentionally added to look like overstrike ?. Your views and feedbacks are much appreciated . Thanks.
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 Posted 08/12/2020  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list

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@ Numister: What is the weight of your example?


Weighs about 1.7g, do you think it was Nickel Plated ?
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 Posted 08/13/2020  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willieboyd2 to your friends list
A British India anna altered to pass for 1/4 rupee:

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British India anna 1917
Copper-nickel, 19 mm, 3.38 gm, Krause KM 513

This is a 1917 British India 1 anna coin that someone filed down to the size of a 1/4 rupee silver coin. The person even added a reeded edge.

A 1/4 rupee was worth 4 annas so this alteration quadrupled the value of the coin.

The anna was then worth around three US cents so someone made a nine cent profit.


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