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What Is A "Basement Slab" Or A Basement Slabber"?

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 Posted 10/04/2014  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
Along with, ICCS ans CCCS..
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 Posted 10/04/2014  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Sorry Mary. Yes, indeed :-)
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 Posted 10/05/2014  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
I basically classify the basement as not sealed and insert a tier of "at least they spent 10K on a sonic sealing setup" below the 'good guys'.

There are several in that middle group. For example, PCI - is back under new owners (again for the ?fourth or fifth go around). Lots of nice sounding promises, but the proof is in the grading (and the horrible rep of several of the incarnations would have me changing the name).

Top 2 (mostly legends in their own minds, but the market likes them): PCGS and NGC
The other 3 that are acceptable to ebay *meaning you have a way to verify the slab #*
* Some people like SEGS, others hate them.
* Ditto for ICG (but they are the only ones who will slab - for protection - a contemporary counterfeit)
* Ditto for ANACS (also a problem of various owners and quality levels)

Outside of the US?

ICCS and CCCS - very well regarded for Canadian coins. ICCS doesn't have a web presence.

CGS-UK - the premier UK slabber

There are other international companies, some with good reps in the area, others with terrible reps (there is a long thread in the Aus section about APCGS).

There are also a couple of outliers that prove the rules are wrong, oh, let's name VSS - Variety Slabbing Service - uses the Coin World (easy open) shells, but is very well regarded for their attribution of varieties in several series.
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 Posted 10/06/2014  04:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epikur to your friends list
I found this lovely lady yesterday...
I find it funny how she takes two pictures of the coin unslabbed, then slabs it and take more pictures after that...

she's not very good at grading :P

http://www.ebay.com/usr/julia_patman
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 Posted 10/06/2014  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Wow. She is the perfect definition of a Basement Slabber.
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 Posted 10/06/2014  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Thanks,another "service" to add to the list.

Bought her PF-64 1966 quarter to add to the reference collection.
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 Posted 10/07/2014  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
I will have to post this when I get the photos moved to another machine, but I found an "NGS" slab last weekend with a human hair inside. Including the follicle. So the question is do I crack it out to run DNA on the slabber?
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 Posted 10/07/2014  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Perhaps the grade applies to the hair and the coin is in there by mistake.
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 Posted 10/07/2014  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Here is an example of a homemade (basement) slab coin. The grade is on the slab is a total joke.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1925-STANDI...131313825784

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 Posted 10/07/2014  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Same one as epikur posted.
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 Posted 12/08/2014  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
I have seen the following slabbers before: NNC, NTC, and ICG

But a recent auction search turned up these new ones:
PCC, CGGA, and HCGS
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 Posted 12/08/2014  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Yikes! That gal on ebay that basement slabs sure has her grading skills down.

I've never seen an XF FSB Merc!

Forget PCGS. It's acg for me :-)
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 Posted 01/03/2015  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paxbrit to your friends list
"A basement slabber slabs his own coins in Coin World slabs or some other type of crude holder, sticks on a sketchy label printed out of a low-quality printer, printed with an amazingly high grade for the coin it describes, and sells on ebay for ridiculously high prices for unaware beginning numismatists."

That was describing me right up to the word 'printer'.

I'm slabbing all my coins in Coin World holders, but not putting a grade on the label. Nor selling them, at least not now.
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 Posted 01/03/2015  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list
My own personal "basement slab" label is "IMHO". :-)
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