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Quartz Affects On Silver!

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 Posted 12/14/2014  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list
dioxide.. thus it is oxidizing the silver. silicon used for semi-conducters...Silicon Valley...
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 Posted 12/14/2014  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David 1974 to your friends list
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could it be the walls?
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 Posted 12/14/2014  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David 1974 to your friends list
Im thinking its the quartz itself
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 Posted 12/14/2014  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 0xDA71D to your friends list
There is such thing as elemental sulphur in quartz

http://www.songofstones.com/item_64...Crystals.htm

You know, you only need a little sulfur to have a lot of effect.
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 Posted 12/14/2014  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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You know, you only need a little sulfur to have a lot of effect.
Yeah--it doesn't take much; I doubt you would even need to smell the sulfur dioxide or hydrogen disulphide. I've got silver vessels that tarnish to near black in 6-8 months.


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dioxide.. thus it is oxidizing the silver.
Quartz is already oxidized silicon--it is not letting those oxygen go; they won't oxidize other things.
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But it's a natural quartz cluster. It has a strong affect on the coin for sure.


Nope. While quartz crystals do have piezoelectric properties, it basically is chemically inert (hence why it is so abundant in the Earth's crust, and occupies the lowest potential to weather in the Goldich dissolution series).

What is toning your coin is whatever it is being exposed to in the air and environment you have it placed in. Humidity, exposure to sunlight, air quality all are playing a role in toning of the coin.

Lots of people believe that quartz crystals have all kinds of special "powers"... but as a geologist, I think it is pretty much a shovelful of the finest fertilizer...
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 Posted 12/14/2014  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David 1974 to your friends list
Why would the top of the coin tone faster than the bottom?
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Less air getting to the bottom because it's resting on the quartz and not seeing as much molecules as the top part which sticks out.
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 Posted 12/14/2014  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list
I think you are assuming you have "pure" quartz.

Whether you like it or not, how can you be certain that when you obtained the quartz mineral, the surface was free from contaminants? Did you rinse it with water? Acetone? All you need is trace amount of sulfur for silver to tone.

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 Posted 12/14/2014  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David 1974 to your friends list
I soak my quartz in cold water once a month then towel pat dry.
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 Posted 12/14/2014  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
It's toning from the top because that's where the chemicals toning it are coming from. The quartz is protecting it.
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They say quartz does have protection qualities! :)
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 Posted 12/14/2014  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
That's enough toning after only 4 months to make me wonder about the atmosphere in the room. Is the table upon which it sits new? I found out the hard way about that one.
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 Posted 12/15/2014  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list
Would the crystals break light into various frequencies (Newton's prism - see humor) with some light causing the silver/copper alloy to be more reactive with the environment? Or conversely, creating a frequency that makes something in the atmosphere more reactive to the metal? Just thinking out loud. Neat basis fr some experiments.
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