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Valued Member
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as far as grade, it looks like a ms63ish based on photograde, but if its been cleaned then that really means nothing. lol
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I know the pics are the same coin, but it sure doesn't LOOK like the same coin!
Cleaned for sure, doctored original photos for sure, too.
If you paid more than xf/au money I'd seriously consider sending the coin back for a refund.
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Valued Member
United States
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Already filed. Will be sent out tomorrow for refund. *sigh*
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The coin you received and posted photos of is not the same coin in the photos you originally posted. I would stay away from this seller, something smells here.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Good for you, glad you are sending it back. Orig photos doctored for sure to hide the harsh cleaning.
Edited by edweather
08/14/2015 3:56 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It certainly looks like the same coin to me IndianGoldEagle - all the dings on the obverse are the same. kdrcoinzz, seems like you made the right call.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It's the same coin, I'll call it genuine, it has been very harshly cleaned. For $470, you can pick up a high AU or lower MS example, in a reputable TPG slab, and not have to worry about scamming sellers. Seller definitely post-processed the life out of the coin, hence the unnatural-appearing and almost too pristine surfaces. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Must have been some creative photo work on those first photos.
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Valued Member
United States
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i agree paralyse, as soon as I saw it in hand I looked what a "UNC improperly" cleaned coin goes for and if it was even remotely close I would of kept it. the prices aren't even close AND the seller said in the description "only a few bag marks" but forgot to mention the toothbrush size scratches on the obverse which you cant see in the photos. lol I filed to return it but ebay is giving seller until 18th to respond before they step in. I'm sure hes going to run out the time as much as possible. |
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United States
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Like I posted and demonstrated earlier, I think it was the weird angle of the lighting that made the difference with the original photo. But there is the possibility that the lighting was continually adjusted until the seller found an angle that made the surfaces look the best, then took the photo. I also think at this point that a noise-removal filter or something was applied to smooth out the surfaces without removing detail. Maybe that's why it looked so shiny at first, but now appears granular. Something I suspected at first, but wasn't sure enough to say.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Man he manipulated the heck out of those pics. You should post the listing so we can all avoid getting taken by this guy. I know it's the same coin but it sure looks wayyy different in hand.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Just my opinion, but the Seller deserves some much needed "neutral" (at a minimum) feedback. The pictures of the actual coin received no where near matches the Seller's original pictures. They were obviously tampered with by the Seller to make the coin look way better than it actual was. If the Seller did it to this coin, he most likely does it to other coins, too.
Past performance is indicative of future behavior.
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Valued Member
United States
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I would send to anacs first as they are the cheapest and will give numerical grade on cleaned coins. I think it comes back ms 66 maybe 67 cleaned
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Mikey, he retured the coin and even then, NONE of the "Big 3" companies give grades to cleaned coins. This one would've come back UNC Details, Cleaned.
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Valued Member
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This is a tough one. The surfaces don't look original, perhaps it has been polished or diooed.Looks like low ms details.
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