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1799 Heraldic Eagle Dollar

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 Posted 08/30/2015  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
VF-30 Details.
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 Posted 08/30/2015  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
VF details
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 Posted 08/30/2015  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OLCoins to your friends list
XF. This coin has a beautiful look to it. I love the blueish toning around the stars and letters.
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 Posted 08/31/2015  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list
I grade it WOW!!

I assume the heavy scratches are on the holder.
I have seen far too few of these to claim to know a grade
my guess is VF obverse
fine Reverse
I would be proud to own it. It wis older than any of my US coins, and I like it!
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 Posted 08/31/2015  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list
Now that I look at other's grades looks like I am lowballing again.

Guess I am just a tough old bird.
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 Posted 08/31/2015  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
OK, I've gone after this attribution twice and come up empty-handed. Could someone else have a go and see what you come up with? I tried a few forks in the Wizard, and neither conclusion of B-10 or B-22 - the only iterations which worked - seem to agree with this coin.

http://www.earlydollars.org/wizardhome.htm
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 Posted 08/31/2015  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
EF details - not due to the hairlines which seem to be on the holder but toning seems to indicate an old cleaning.
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 Posted 08/31/2015  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list
Dave I tried the wizard twice. I've never attempted an attribution of a Bust Dollar however that wizard was slick. I am not 100% of my end result, but I came up with

B-9

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 Posted 08/31/2015  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
I came up with B-9 also. R-1.
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 Posted 08/31/2015  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
Details appear to be around VF-25.

I also gave the wizard a shot and came up with BB-166, B-9.
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 Posted 08/31/2015  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CopperCastle to your friends list
I agree 100% with Fenton. XF cleaned. You'll be hard pressed to find an 18th century example without ANY evidence of a past cleaning; so this detriment is minimal in my book. Simply stunning.
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 Posted 09/01/2015  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OLCoins to your friends list
The color of the coin does not indicate cleaning to me.

Coindog,
What does the PCGS code indicate the reason for being a details coin?
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 Posted 09/02/2015  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list
I think the only difference between B22 and b9 is the gap between the bust and the stars. OLCoins its a 92. In hand it is very noticable. I'm so bad at taking pictures that I can make a cleaned coin look unclean ha ha. Thanks everyone for the input.
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OK, I erred in my evaluation of the right star positions. The die crack after the S in STATES is diagnostic, such that someone who knew more about these than I (in other words, your average 9 year old) should be able to attribute it on sight.

Very late die state with the crack developed through AMERICA.
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 Posted 09/02/2015  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Neo13x to your friends list

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You'll be hard pressed to find an 18th century example without ANY evidence of a past cleaning; so this detriment is minimal in my book. Simply stunning.



I initially put the grade at VF-30 but to be realistic I feel it is more of a VF-25. The scratches on the plastic and glare from the light make it hard to see clearly. Regardless of the grade I like it and it is on my "when I strike it rich" list
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