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 Posted 11/09/2015  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Picked one up for myself, but as of yet, have to read it...
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 Posted 11/10/2015  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list
For a quick, online grading reference you might try the link below, I use it quite often.
http://coinsandcanada.com/coins-grading.php
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 Posted 11/22/2015  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
So I just received my copy of "Guide for Grading Coins of Canada" by Andre Langlois. (Thank you very much SPP for sending me a copy!)

Here's my opinion of the book from an initial look:

1) The book is coil bound, a feature I absolutely love. I like how you can flip through pages and it will stay open to the page very easily because of the coil bind.

2) The next thing I noticed were the pictures. They're very well done and of decent size and detail to understand the differences between grades. The one thing I was a bit disappointed in was that the pictures are in black and white. I assume either printing in colour would have been too expensive or production in colour wouldn't have the same detailed effects.

3) The wide range of coinage that is covered. This book covers every denomination and every effigy.

4) The introduction pages 3-10 is where the guts of the information really lies deep! I have only skimmed over the intro, and I look forward to reading a lot more what the author says on many of topics discussed in the intro.

5) Reading level - the reading level of this book is not that advanced. I would put it somewhere between grade 9 or 10. This I see as an advantage. Partially because I'm probably a simpleton and with a touch of ADD, I find it easy to understand and I don't "drift" while reading, nor do I get frustrated that I don't understand what's being discussed. Also the large font and line spacing is really easy on the eyes.

6) The one thing I really really REALLY wanted was a way to distinguish between grades MS 60 - 68. I'm sure a whole book could possibly be written about this area in itself but what has frustrated me in the past was so many grading books or websites talk about AU to the lower grades, but little time is spent on distinguishing grades 60 and up!

I certainly look forward to a few nights studying this book and many times taking this book out and using it as a reference to grade my own coins.


Certainly an update from my other grading book that was already mentioned in this thread ...
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 Posted 11/23/2015  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
No book can do what your own eyes can. The more coins you see in hand (circulated or mint state), the better grader you will become... that takes time, good observation skills, and a _lot_ of coins.
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 Posted 11/24/2015  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add techwriter to your friends list

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No book can do what your own eyes can. The more coins you see in hand (circulated or mint state), the better grader you will become... that takes time, good observation skills, and a _lot_ of coins.


with you SPP, especially the lots of coins.
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 Posted 11/24/2015  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Always say there is a good ms 63 and a crappy ms 63
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 Posted 11/24/2015  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list

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The more coins you see in hand (circulated or mint state), the better grader you will become..


So true..and that's my problem..
I never get to see or handle that many nice high grade cents...

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 Posted 11/24/2015  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list

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I never get to see or handle that many nice high grade cents...


Wrong. You attend both Nuphilex and Coin Expo Devlec... spend less time chatting at my table and take your hand lens to view dealer inventories... You can learn a lot just from seeing what is out there and who knows, maybe you'll find a cherry to pick...

I used to go to Nuphilex as a collector (and not a dealer), and I would literally spend three days seeing absolutely _everything_ in most dealers inventories (well, except I would have to wipe the drool off Sandy Campbell's cases...)
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 Posted 11/24/2015  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
That's a great idea SPP! I know that Chris at my local LCS has always said I could hang out there and check out the inventory... and while there isn't too many shows in my area I should probably take advantage of checking out what there is when it's put out to the public.

After reading a few of the pages of this book I already have a few questions and will probably have to get the help of a few individuals who have some stock and may be able to provide pictures.... would you mind if I sent you a few PM's occasionally SPP?
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 Posted 12/06/2015  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qbvbsite to your friends list
Just ordered both books mentioned, looking forward in giving them a read :). Helped get my CA order to 100$ for cheaper shipping.
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 Posted 12/06/2015  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list

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well, except I would have to wipe the drool off Sandy Campbell's cases...


I had to do that too this year
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 Posted 12/06/2015  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list

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Wrong. You attend both Nuphilex and Coin Expo Devlec... "..spend less time chatting.." at my table and take your hand lens to view dealer inventories..


Impossible for me..!!..It also would probably help if you stop giving so many coins away to me..

..and I quickly get sensory overload when studying coins..
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 Posted 12/09/2015  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list
I picked up a copy of the Langlois book at the Coin Cabinet today. After a look-through, it seems promising. I like that there's a section on Maritime coinage and it touches on tokens. With the Internet so utilized today, I think people will/do prefer photographs to line drawings for assistance. As mentioned though, it is about practice and looking at lots of coins in hand too.

*** I do wish it went "worse" thank AG - would love some Fair and Poor examples, at least in Vickies.
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 Posted 12/11/2015  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Personally, I would like to see a smartphone app, PCGS Photograde for Canadian coins would be awesome...
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 Posted 12/11/2015  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list
Exactly. If some enterprising TPG wanted to build a website and license his photos for an app/site, that would draw plenty of users.
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