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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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VF25 with nice examples of weight-adjustment marks. Very attractive coin.
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Mint blank weight adjustment marks are always parallel. My opinion is that most of the deep 'scratches' are indeed weight adjustment marks, which are evidence of common practice in the era in which these were struck. There a few other deep lines however at an angle of up to about 30 degrees, and perhaps these could be considered to be a deep scratches. Need to be confirmed by a specialist professional numistmatist; I am nowhere expert enough to offer any more of a significant opinion than I alredy have. I agree with other grading opinions in this thread, and I would love to have this coin in my collection. 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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A lot of detail in the stars and the wreath. I'll go with VF-35 or even XF-40.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6396 Posts |
I think VF-35. The reverse is especially strong which suggests the obverse strike was a bit soft. Nice example, congrats!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6370 Posts |
Obverse looks VF-30 while the reverse looks EF-40. Is this an issue where you have to grade by the details on one side?
My guess is VF-35.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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A little weakness in strike. I agree with 35 obverse and 40 reverse. Bill tends to grade conservatively So I think he will call it 35. To me it looks strong enough for a 40 grade
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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VF-35, but some of those are scratches
Edited by Andrew99 06/29/2016 9:32 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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NGC graded this 1795 Flowing Hair Dollar EF-40. This coin also has a grading history.
I bought this coin in the mid 1970s. At that time I paid a slightly higher VF price because it had original surfaces. A lot of these coins have been dipped or cleaned to a white silver color which is does not go with the VF grade. (i.e. You don't get the color of a Mint State coin on a VF coin.)
My grade for this coin was VF-25 when I owned it. I graded the obverse VF-20 and the reverse VF-30. An expert dealer I showed it to, called the reverse EF-40.
One thing about Flowing Hair dollars is that they were not all made the same. Some varieties come more sharply struck with greater detail than others. This is a Bolender 5, which is identifiable from the thin bar (die defect) that is back of Ms. Liberty's heard. This is one of the varieties that has less detail. It is also the most common Flowing Hair Dollar variety from my observations.
I upgraded this type a few years ago, and decided to sell this coin. I got a bit more resistance from dealers than I thought I would get. Some said it was over graded, which was a valid point, but many didn't like the adjustment marks.
In the early days of the mint the planchets had to fall within certain weight standards. If the planchet (coin blank) was too heavy the excess medal was filed off, usually by female employees who caught the filings in leather aprons. At the end of the day these aprons were taken apart and the silver was recovered. These female employees got the lowest wages paid at the mint, 66 cents a day.
If the planchets were too light they were thrown into the melting pot, or in some instances a silver plug was driven into the piece to make up the weight. Coins with the silver plug visible now sell for a premium.
Since adjustment marks were done at the mint, they don't lower the technical grade, but they can lower the collector value if they are ugly. Some adjustment marks are so small that they can hardly be noticed. Obviously those marks present no problem.
At any rate some dealers didn't want my coin because of the adjustment marks, but I made a good buck on it just the same because I had owned it for so long. I never viewed the adjustment as much of problem because they seemed to flow with the design in my opinion. Oh well.
So there is my story.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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what was the cost in 1975?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: what was the cost in 1975? $1,100, and that was on the high side. You have to remember though that $20,000 a year was a pretty decent salary.
Edited by billjones 06/30/2016 5:07 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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I'd say vf 35 and thanks Bill Jones I would have said details. A day that goes by without learning something is a wasted day. Nice coin
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