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I've seen counterfeit GeoV half's struck in lead, I would say it is not impossible for it to be a counterfeit struck in copper.
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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09/05/2016 5:19 pm
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dbm you make a good point. that could be possible. according to canadian coins catalogue. this coin should be made up of.925 of silver and .075 of copper. this coin is like it has a very thin layer of silver. the coin is supose to be 2.0 mm thick. I measured it the thickness is 1.72mm thick. I dont have a scale to weight it but it is heavy. I am going to purchase this coin. I was given a 1918 quarter today. these coins are not made out of the same metal. yet the catalogue says they should be. this 1918 fifty cent piece has way to much copper. well it looks real. I know that dont mean that it is. I know that this collection had be in that gentleman hands for a very long time. thank you all so much for your input.
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XWLCoins you could be right. it might just be a Counterfeit. I can tell you one think it would be very close to perfect copy. oh well I will have to get it checked some how. thank you
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rocky, I can't stop you from purchasing it, but unless it's fairly cheap I would recommend that you don't. It is highly unlikely that it is, in fact, an error.
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Just a plain old well worn half.
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Pacificoin I agree with you. the only differents is that this coin has a lot more copper in its make up. like some of the coins that DBM posted here. I would imagine that there is higher levels than normal of copper. there no way in 1918. that they could mix these metal. that it be perfect 93% silver and 7% copper. so all this coin is is one with a lot more copper in its make up. I just thought it might be worth a little more value. because of the higher copper level.
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Pacificoin I agree with you. the only differents is that this coin has a lot more copper in its make up. like some of the coins that DBM posted here. I would imagine that there is higher levels than normal of copper. there no way in 1918. that they could mix these metal. that it be perfect 93% silver and 7% copper. so all this coin is is one with a lot more copper in its make up. I just thought it might be worth a little more value. because of the higher copper level. OK, so I understand why you want to buy the coin, but what reason do you have to believe the composition is wrong? In 1918 they did have the ability to correctly mix the metals fairly precisely, and it sounds like the main reason you have is the coin's color, which doesn't tell you much about composition. I see that the reverse does look a bit like the color of old copper, but there are plenty of explanations, including (as others here have suggested) toning and the possibility of a counterfeit. If you want to buy it, by all means do that, but I really think this is a crapshoot. Edited by Numisma
09/06/2016 09:26 am
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There is the remote possibility of improperly mixed alloy.
You would need to get it XRF tested to convince anyone of that.
As Numisma said it's a crapshoot.
The odds are against you but it's your money.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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I think I would rather draw to 20 at a Black Jack Table in a major casino, than buy this obviously normal well worn half.
The chances of this XRF ing at any thing other than sterling silver is about nil. It is your money, and it sounds like you have already talked your self in to it. Good Luck!
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09/06/2016 2:57 pm
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Pacificoin thank you. I agree here is a picture of another one. I have a box full of these. take a look at this coin. why I ask is if there is o value to these at all. I will just roll them up and turn them into the bank. there is probably 200 hundred dollars worth in this box. they range from 1898 to 1930. most of them you can Barrie make out the date. what would you do with them thank you. I am going to get ridge of a lot of this stuff. Pacificoin I know the stuff dad purchased from you is in a lot better shape. I will deal with that stuff later. thank you so much for your time. see the top coin looks so different. I can see the copper. but if that dont make a difference in the coins value. ok I will get ridge of it to as well. I got it very cheap so it dont matter to me   |
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Rocky remember to NOT take to the bank any 1967 or earlier halves they are at least Silver value . Give or take at least 6.50 a coin. The pre 1920 stuff is a touch higher.
If in doubt on any of your coins get some numismatic help from a local dealer(s) . Do not short change yourself . Dispose of nothing until you know. Cheers.
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09/06/2016 3:15 pm
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Yeah please don't take these to the bank even if they don't have dates and are beat to all heck just sell them for silver 10-13 times face value depending on how much weight has been lost. Anyone buying for silver would just weigh the lot and pay according to spot and percentage agreed upon. Even if they are significant chunks missing from the coin silver weight is silver weight. If it were me and they were all crappy like that I'd just try to sell them on forums here or something like that, no sense trying ebay as you will lose alot to fees and no one should want to pay a premium if they are crap, there are usually plenty of local places willing to pay something for silver. |
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I don't see where anybody asked, so I will - what on earth makes you think it's copper? Your pic of the obverse looks like well-worn silver to me, and maybe like a few I pulled out of the clean-out pit in a recycled newspaper paper mill I worked at in college. In almost a hundred years who knows what that coin has been through. Copper it isn't.
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