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Quintillus Antoninianus

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 Posted 02/18/2017  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list

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But for those who do not follow the mints, let me explain.


Excellent explanation lrbguy thank you

RIC V #45 for Mediolanum, third officina is on wildwinds and is text as being very rare...So excellent buy Lucky Cuss

Thanks for sharing
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 Posted 02/18/2017  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list
Here is my go-to for exhaustive variety research:

http://www.romancoin.info

At the bottom are a series of excel spreadsheets; there is a full one for Quintillus. I think yours is row 204 under the "1 person" tab
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 Posted 02/18/2017  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liberty Belle to your friends list
That is a fantastic find! It's not often to get first crack at unsorted goodies. Congratulations!
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 Posted 02/18/2017  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list

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excel spreadsheets; there is a full one for Quintillus. I think yours is row 204 under the "1 person" tab



The problem with that, Steve, is that #204 specifies "two standards" for the reverse figure. Just below that #205 has "standard and cornucopia," which is the form on this coin, but with the obverse inscription as on the coin above.

This guide may be helpful in identifying features, but the sad part about this listing is that it does not attribute the coins by mint and/or officina. In that regard it is not a substitute for RIC.
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 Posted 02/18/2017  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Check Victor's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Victor to your friends list
RIC Vi is woefully outdated; but there is actually an online version of an update that is in progress.
http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/home

the link from the above site for the listing of the original coin in this post- http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coin/1119

a good book for the Milan mint is"Mediolanum - La Zecca di milano dalle origini a Desiderio, Re dei Longobardi (IV sec. a.C. - 774 d.C.)" by Alessandro Toffanin; which actually cross references the RIC temp numbers.
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 Posted 02/18/2017  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
OK,,But does that mean that my original attribution was correct?


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Maybe..but I'm not sure...it's a Milan mint and the T stands for third officina?
(as a closest association/)
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 Posted 02/18/2017  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list
A lovely Quintillus, especially since it appears to have silvering.

I like the little circles in his hair to illustrate his curls.
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the link from the above site for the listing of the original coin in this post- http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coin/1119


That's absolutely it. They have this classified as being under RIC 1st 45 var. and the mint as Milan (Mediolanum}. Since thee are 44 examples documented (all in European collections?), the notion that it's a new variation or "very rare" can pretty much be dismissed, I think. Of those listed, many have photo files attached. From the standpoint of a unique specimen, I'd call attention to the fifth from the top on the first page (identified as Vienna 21148) for which the photo shows a strongly double struck obverse.


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...even has a little silver remaining.


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...it appears to have silvering.


That certainly appears to be the case to me also, and in this respect it might be something of an exceptional example.

Colligo ergo sum
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 Posted 02/19/2017  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list
Thanks for the RIC update site, Victor. That should help with attribution and data on a particular coin variety; i.e. the coin in your gunsights. Tremendous resource.

But at another level what do you do for the "grand sweep" of data that let's you see the logic of it all? Patterns in mint parallels; or the locus for a particular type, and so on. Serendipity happens when you weren't out looking for what you ended up finding. The books did that, but how do you do that with "searches." This is an honest question, not a complaint. I really want to know.
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 Posted 08/06/2019  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list
I happened across another issue of Quintillus today, picking it up on account of what I thought to be a well executed and preserved portrait. Unfortunately, the reverse is rather mediocre. It appears to conform to RIC 58 (Milan) with what looks to me to be the officina letter "D" in the exergue (although it might alternatively be an incompletely struck "P").

Quintillus-Antoninianus

Quintillus-Antoninianus

Colligo ergo sum
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 Posted 01/14/2020  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list
This was sold to me today (mis)identified as an issue of Claudius II, and I had actually already posted it as such here before taking a closer look and realizing it was a Quintillus instead.

RIC31 (Sear 11451)

Quintillus-Antoninianus

Quintillus-Antoninianus

Colligo ergo sum
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That is a very nice surprise- excellent details and it looks to still have some silvering. You don't see that very often on a Quintillus.

Certaily not the one in my collection
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 Posted 01/15/2020  04:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
....A very nice looking coin!
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That's a beautiful Quintillus! Very, very rarely do you see one with that much silvering!
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 Posted 01/17/2020  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list
There is a Quintillus misidentified as Claudius in the current CNG eAuction. Nobody's perfect... https://auctions.cNGCoins.com/lots/...-claudius-ii
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