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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: But for those who do not follow the mints, let me explain. Excellent explanation lrbguy thank you RIC V #45 for Mediolanum, third officina is on wildwinds and is text as being very rare...So excellent buy Lucky Cuss Thanks for sharing
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Pillar of the Community
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Here is my go-to for exhaustive variety research: http://www.romancoin.infoAt the bottom are a series of excel spreadsheets; there is a full one for Quintillus. I think yours is row 204 under the "1 person" tab
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That is a fantastic find! It's not often to get first crack at unsorted goodies. Congratulations!
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: excel spreadsheets; there is a full one for Quintillus. I think yours is row 204 under the "1 person" tab The problem with that, Steve, is that #204 specifies "two standards" for the reverse figure. Just below that #205 has "standard and cornucopia," which is the form on this coin, but with the obverse inscription as on the coin above. This guide may be helpful in identifying features, but the sad part about this listing is that it does not attribute the coins by mint and/or officina. In that regard it is not a substitute for RIC.
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Pillar of the Community
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RIC Vi is woefully outdated; but there is actually an online version of an update that is in progress. http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/homethe link from the above site for the listing of the original coin in this post- http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coin/1119a good book for the Milan mint is"Mediolanum - La Zecca di milano dalle origini a Desiderio, Re dei Longobardi (IV sec. a.C. - 774 d.C.)" by Alessandro Toffanin; which actually cross references the RIC temp numbers.
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Pillar of the Community
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OK,,But does that mean that my original attribution was correct? Quote: Maybe..but I'm not sure...it's a Milan mint and the T stands for third officina? (as a closest association/)
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Pillar of the Community
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A lovely Quintillus, especially since it appears to have silvering.
I like the little circles in his hair to illustrate his curls.
Paul Bulgerin
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:the link from the above site for the listing of the original coin in this post- http://www.ric.mom.fr/en/coin/1119 That's absolutely it. They have this classified as being under RIC 1st 45 var. and the mint as Milan (Mediolanum}. Since thee are 44 examples documented (all in European collections?), the notion that it's a new variation or "very rare" can pretty much be dismissed, I think. Of those listed, many have photo files attached. From the standpoint of a unique specimen, I'd call attention to the fifth from the top on the first page (identified as Vienna 21148) for which the photo shows a strongly double struck obverse. Quote: ...even has a little silver remaining. Quote: ...it appears to have silvering. That certainly appears to be the case to me also, and in this respect it might be something of an exceptional example.
Colligo ergo sum
Edited by Lucky Cuss 02/19/2017 11:21 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the RIC update site, Victor. That should help with attribution and data on a particular coin variety; i.e. the coin in your gunsights. Tremendous resource.
But at another level what do you do for the "grand sweep" of data that let's you see the logic of it all? Patterns in mint parallels; or the locus for a particular type, and so on. Serendipity happens when you weren't out looking for what you ended up finding. The books did that, but how do you do that with "searches." This is an honest question, not a complaint. I really want to know.
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Pillar of the Community
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I happened across another issue of Quintillus today, picking it up on account of what I thought to be a well executed and preserved portrait. Unfortunately, the reverse is rather mediocre. It appears to conform to RIC 58 (Milan) with what looks to me to be the officina letter "D" in the exergue (although it might alternatively be an incompletely struck "P").  
Colligo ergo sum
Edited by Lucky Cuss 08/07/2019 2:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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This was sold to me today (mis)identified as an issue of Claudius II, and I had actually already posted it as such here before taking a closer look and realizing it was a Quintillus instead. RIC31 (Sear 11451)  
Colligo ergo sum
Edited by Lucky Cuss 01/14/2020 10:28 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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That is a very nice surprise- excellent details and it looks to still have some silvering. You don't see that very often on a Quintillus. Certaily not the one in my collection   
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Pillar of the Community
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 ....A very nice looking coin!
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Pillar of the Community
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That's a beautiful Quintillus! Very, very rarely do you see one with that much silvering!
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