Basement Job Getting Bids........

I am having second thoughts on this one.

Most 'garage' aka basement jobs we see here in Oz have a reverse image bashed onto them.

I'm not saying this coin is legit, but how would it get a positive image by having another coin banged onto it.

The seller clearly shows in their images that the planchet is way thinner than a 'normal' one. Maybe mint sport.

Might be time for another opinion.

A "raised" design can be done with counterfeit soft dies. Make an impression of a coin on another piece of metal (the "die"), then hammer that "die" on a coin.

The reduced thickness is because the obverse had been ground down.

I am "leaning" genuine but I could be wrong.

My take on this coin is that it is a split planchet. After striking, it failed to eject and another blank planchet entered the chamber. The reverse struck up nicely on the second strike although off center but the obverse was covered by the blank planchet effectively obliterating most of the original obverse strike. Plus the original obverse strike was likely weak to begin with because it is such a thin planchet. IMHO

Not a chance...

There is no evidence of a "second strike" in the places where you would expect to see preservation of the devices (in the recesses of the dies, in their centre). Any second strike that was strong enough to obliterate a rim, would also remove the beads and most of the other devices from the first strike. What are the odds of having no rotation in collar betweens strikes, unless it was a cap on the reverse die?

If the first strike was that weak with a split planchet, then how did a fully formed rim happen on both sides of the coin (you can see the flattened rim on the obverse too)? Coins struck on split planchets have very distinctive textures, which in part are formed from the rolling of the metal strips - that is completely absent.

When a coin is struck and then sandwiched with a blank planchet (which is how brockage strikes are formed), the capped coin has a convex cap edge form where the metal is stretched on the edge of the hammer die, and the blank planchet that was struck, does get a mirror image brockage, but also has a cupped concave cap edge. The force of the dies forces the metal up around the hammer die and around the coin stuck to it.

Lastly, note that one strike that was "off-centre" a bit. Remember that the raised rim element and the 12-sided shape is formed by the collar die - please explain how is it possible to have a raised rim element, which includes the 12-sided shape (look below the word CANADA) well into the fields of the coin?

If the collar was there, it would be strongly impressed into the coin on one side (assuming it was sitting on a blank planchet, creating a spoon-like shape.

Don't think in terms how it was made in the garage - think in terms of how can this possibly be made at the mint? (which is why I worded my earlier reply as questions).

Again, how does one get a 12-sided impression of the rim itself (the 12-sided rim feature is formed by the collar die) way out in the fields of the coin? It is physically impossible.

This, is what you should have seen: http://goccf.com/t/267141

Then, study any number of legitimate double-struck 1-cent coins to see how the second strike almost obliterates the first strike, especially on the fields of the second strike (highest part of the die).

My interpretation? This was originally an error coin struck on a thin planchet (not a split planchet). Then, someone tried to make a "better error" out of it...

I noticed it was removed too, and unfortunately I didn't save off the images. It kind of makes me sad in a way. I mean, take a cent in your hand, visualize the planchet one-third the thickness, and ask yourself, really? Hammer job? With all the odd stuff that can happen at the mint? If it was faked, that's some quality work. Maybe the seller should have made forty bucks on it. Let's see, I gotta produce some soft dies (but with tiny denticles) and shave two-thirds of the obverse off and then somehow punch a super-weak obverse and triple-punch the rim and denticles... but it will be worth it! (Sorry in advance for the sarcasm)