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Grade So High For A Strike This Bad? 1925-D Lincoln Cent

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 Posted 03/23/2017  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
That certainly shows the limitations of a single number that completely specifies the characteristics of a coin. A single number is not enough.
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 Posted 03/23/2017  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list
There's nothing about that coin that looks like a 63 to me. Except maybe the "2".
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 Posted 03/23/2017  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
That's a beauty actually! The 24/25 branch mint sets are some of the worst struck coins of the series. The branches relied on Philly for working dies. Due to a shortage of dies, both S and D over-used their dies to meet production quotas. This coin is graded accurately.
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 Posted 03/23/2017  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list
There are two 63s and a 62 at http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/CoinIm....aspx?s=2561 that show far clearer details than this specimen. Just looking at the wheat stalks, there is virtually no detail here, while the PCGS images show full lines and grains. The obverse is somewhat better, but LIBERTY is so weak compared to the PCGS images that I can't believe the 63 grade is justified overall.
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 Posted 03/23/2017  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
As far as the TPG's go, quality of the strike only comes into consideration when you get to 66 and up....based on my experience. The primary things a TPG looks at:

1) Eye appeal
2) Luster

Why? Because a grader only spends a few seconds looking at each coin and these are things that standout.
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 Posted 03/23/2017  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list
Wow! Thanks BadThad for this great information.
For the new members here at CCF. BadThad is one of the best experts on Lincoln cents at CCF.
He also invented, "VerdiChem" or "VERDI-CARE." Which is mentioned a lot here at CCF.
This is no promo for the product but, a great respect for his knowledge about Lincoln Cents.
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 Posted 03/23/2017  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
It is probably a Grease Filled Die, and the Lincolns in the 20's have been noted not to have great strikes.

I would say it was a 63
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 Posted 03/23/2017  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list
So the coin I have in my album that looks like an XF/LDS is actually not a bad coin!

Between the time I first posted this morning and now, I found another 25-D that looks fully struck and was better priced. I'll post it when it arrives next week.

That also explains why nice examples of fully struck '24 S & D are so hard to find at reasonable prices.


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Looking at the slabbed photos ,If the reverse photo is of the same coin( which it seems to be) the reverse is rotated quite a bit!


That must be another common trait of 1925-D coins. More than half of the coins I looked closely at in my search (including the one I ultimately bought) display the same sort of rotation.
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 Posted 03/23/2017  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list

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This coin is graded accurately.

Maybe so ,but I'll be dar gone if I'll ever own it .
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 Posted 03/23/2017  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
For sure.
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 Posted 03/23/2017  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
I agree with the grade given.
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 Posted 03/23/2017  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
This is about as far as they let the dies go at the branch mints. I've posted it here many times. Chuck D. graded it MS-63RB.



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 Posted 03/23/2017  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
CC Scotty sold me this one he FOUND searching bags. I love him for that! It's a good strike for the issue. Obverse EDS:



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So then the one I have must have been an EDS, interesting to note mine is also rotated reverse about 20 degrees CCW

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Not quite as MS, but still nice for wheat bulk find!
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03/24/2017 12:56 am
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 Posted 03/24/2017  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
That's an EDS coin, just highly worn. NICE FIND!
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