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New Member
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I understand it looks that way to you and my rudimentary photo skills are doing me a great disservice. What you can't see is that under my loop there is nothing business strike about it. Having it graded soon, its all I can do at this point. I will be willing to discuss all aspects of the coin and try to improve the pics. It has lint marks, strairation lines in the reverse field plus this year is known for weak strikes. Wire rim, mirrored finish, any bevel is from wear. I've spent 2 months with it.
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Bedrock of the Community
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this year is known for weak strikes. With proofs, that is not a factor. You've now proven to yourself that it is a business strike and not a "No S" proof. By the way, no 1978 proofs have ever been found lacking the S mintmark. I certainly hope you stick around as there is mucho to be learned here!  I like your spirit. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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New Member
United States
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I will take more pics tomorrow. The purpose of the sms comparison is to show that a circulated business strike from 78 should not have any similarities to an sms nickel but that nickel is the only coin I have that matches its luster. In 2 months I have yet to find a business strike with the same characteristics of this dime. The photos are going to get better. I will show you everything that makes it differ from any business strike. look at the rim..its outer edge has worn but its wire still.
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Moderator
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Edited by John1
07/28/2017 08:05 am
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Rest in Peace
United States
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 , Not an impaired proof .  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm not seeing a proof either.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Same here, it looks like a normal circulated business strike. If you collect Roosevelt dimes from circulation, though, I'd keep it as a nice addition to the set! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I sure doesn't look like a typical business strike.
Without better pictures I'm leaning strongly this way though.
The strike is pretty sharp.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Clear and better pictures for sure...but for right now my vote is a business strike. |
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Rest in Peace
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Those rims senor, ain't no wire rim, they are the standard business strike tapered rim. I see two notable features, #1) this is a slightly MAD centered at the 5 o'clock position, which does include a heavy strike. #2) the die shows a late die state and great Die Deterioration metal flow to the outside edges as seen by all devices being stretched toand touching the rim as well as increasing in overall size(bust). The fields show evidence of recent (before strike) polishing. Notice the "Ballooning" of the letters. This is the stretching effect of DDD. Will be waiting to see how much this will be listed for on ebay!  |
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New Member
United States
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I like what Crazyb is saying, the first of a viable explanation. So the strairation lines in the reverse field are from pre strike polishing? And why the mirror finish? Hard to see in pics but it outshines all business old and new. Also his hair still has remnants of what looks like a matte finish. Also I've seen over polished dies and under the loop the ballooning leaves blurred lines and although the devices are enlarged their lines are sharp. The rim has taken a beating but in some places reed meets the edge.
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Rest in Peace
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Mbaga, was talking strictly about obverse in that discourse based on this:  The hammer die shows the advanced state Die Deterioration. The reverse pix is rather poor. Because of angle shot only thing it tells is that it definitely is a standard business strike because of the rim. As to wear, die states, unless coin is perpendicular to coin, one cant tell squat! Even any luster is absent. Find it very difficult to even consider a proof strike because details or too shallow, only one hit, not two like a proof. Most important tho, is show the sides. Proof coins ALWAYS are symmetrically Flat, evenly distributed. Most business strikes show thick/thin on a 360 degree survey...  Edited by Crazyb0
07/28/2017 11:48 pm
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New Member
United States
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When I look at 1978 s dimes the reverse is not very impressive either. Thanks for the diagram it helped a lot. The obverse is most definitely wired..no bevel at all. The reverse still puts all my other dimes to shame in detail.The reverse rim is not as deep but a clear bevel I can not find. My work is not allowing me the time to take better pics so probably not til Monday can I show you that its not like any of the hundreds of dimes I've compared it to in the past 2 months. Go look at 78 s dimes that have been untouched and you will see they too have hohum reverses. What of the strairation lines? Oh and the lint marks? I guess you can't see them YET but offer me an explanation as if you could see them. And you will.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I need to see a pic of only the rim. It looks like a business strike to me.
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New Member
United States
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ok I will tomorrow. your info is the best thus far and I appreciate your patience. there is no fluctuation on either side, the rims are symmetrical. if you can't see that in the pics then I think there must be some angling issues. All my business strikes exhibit those characteristics but this coin does not. It is impaired proof I know it...until tomorrow. Thanks again.
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