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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Something along the lines of France's version that actually dealt with the subject matter would have been much preferred. There's no way the prudes would have allowed such a blatant design. Frankly, I'm surprised they actually used the word "breast".
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The Mint has announced pricing for the non-gold coins being released in March. Coin News lists them as: 
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Pillar of the Community
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 check out the prices on the clad halveS It should be interesting to see how many are sold. -MV
Edited by MeadowviewCollector 01/29/2018 7:50 pm
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Quote: check out the prices on the clad halveS Whoa! 
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Pillar of the Community
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 with that sentiment. The regular prices for the halves are crazy, especially since they feature a shared design. I expect that for the average collector, if they're going to spend that kind of money, they will probably go for the one with silver. Nevertheless, it should be interesting to follow the sales for the halves.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The Mint is going to price themselves out of business at this rate.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: The Mint is going to price themselves out of business at this rate.  I would like to get at least one, but those clad half prices are not worth it. I'll get a silver dollar through someone else at a reduced price, which will almost certainly happen. I don't expect these to retain much of their original price, unfortunately.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
Edited by spru 01/31/2018 01:15 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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That is a pretty redicilous price for that half. The mint needs to do MUCH MUCH better work than they do if they want to try and get those kind of premiums.
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Quote: The Mint is going to price themselves out of business at this rate. A fair prediction.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Still don't get the association of a butterfly to breast cancer, but I do like that reverse anyway 
Edited by BadDog 02/16/2018 2:06 pm
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Quote: And here we go. 85% gold is still going to be out of my price range. Quote: Still don't get the association of a butterfly to breast cancer, but I do like that reverse anyway Google "butterfly breast cancer" and you will see that it is a common symbol among those who have had breast cancer.
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Pillar of the Community
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At least the Pink gold is a clearer association than butterflies.
I would have expected 75/25 or 18 karat as the most common rose gold. 85/15 would seem to be a unique alloy. Apparently the tiny bit of zinc helps with the pinkness.
I think you can do more good at less cost by contributing 25 bucks to a recognized breast cancer charity. Instead of contributing $5 through the surcharge and covering the mint's production cost for what I see is a relatively insipid design.
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There's no reason one couldn't make a standalone donation to charity and also purchase a coin for their collection. Seems like a win-win to me!
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Quote: It will also be interesting to see if the Au content stays at .24187 ozt, as PL 114-148 doesn't specify a weight for the coin. It does say that the diameter has to remain at .850 inches. I haven't seen anything from the Mint on how they will accommodate these specifications in the coin, but it looks to me like either the overall weight, Au weight or thickness will have to change. I posed this question some time ago, and now that the designs have been released it can be answered. The coin specifications from the Mint's website are that it will weigh 7.931 gm which is 5.12% less than the "normal" 8.359 gm for commemorative half eagles. By law, the diameter remains the same at .850 inches. I was hoping that the Mint would increase the coin thickness to maintain the "normal" amount of gold in a half eagle, .24187 ozt of gold, but they obviously didn't. My guess is that the thickness didn't change and the overall weight reduction is consistent with the composition change. This "new" $5 coin (can't call it a half eagle, guess we'll have to come up with a new name) with a lower overall weight and lower percentage of gold content will only have .21674 ozt of gold, 10.4% less than a traditional half eagle gold coin. With gold currently between $1300-$1350, if the $5 proof coin were available today its price would be $436. Last year, the price for the Boy's Town $5 commemorative with gold at this price would have been $429.75. So, that's a $6.25 (1.45%) increase for 10.4% less gold, no silver at all and 247% more in copper. Given the lower gold content, this amounts to around a 13.4% price increase for the gold proof coin. The Unc would be similar (+11.9%). Not as steep as the half dollar increases (+19.3% Unc, +17.9% Prf) and worse than the dollar increases (+10.2% Unc, +9.6% Prf). BTW, another subtle pricing change is that the $5 proof coin is now $10 more at each pricing level than the $5 uncirculated coin. It used to be a $5 pricing difference.
Edited by BadDog 02/17/2018 9:21 pm
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