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1913 S Buffalo Nickel Type 2... Grading Opinions.

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 Posted 05/11/2020  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Coin has a nice strike. Luster looks subdued but that could be lighting. I'm gonna disagree that this is gem. I have it at MS63. The picture below, reproduced from above show 4 hits in the focal point of the obverse. The 3rd one from the left looks pretty deep.

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 Posted 05/11/2020  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Hard to add anything to the excellent analysis by @fortcollins. I'd say a solid MS-65.
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 Posted 05/12/2020  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list
VERY nice addition to your set.

MS64.
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 Posted 05/12/2020  08:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list

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I see the resulting net grade as MS-65/MS-65+.



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To me it's more of an MS-65+

Wow , is it possible I called it before fortcollins did .
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 Posted 05/12/2020  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
I'm at MS65 also, the reverse strike is very nice
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 Posted 05/12/2020  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
A few hits in places that are hard to notice. MS-65.
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 Posted 05/12/2020  11:06 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Lock MS65 . Wonderful coin!
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 Posted 05/12/2020  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
Thanks all, will be sending off to NGC this week, will post results once it shows up.
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 Posted 05/21/2020  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
Grade posted from NGC. Don't have it in hand, will ship out today.
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 Posted 05/21/2020  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Thanks for posting the results.

Looks like NGC didn't agree with most of us here on the Forum.

I think the two carbon spots, more prominent/pronounced in the NGC photos than in the pics we saw, really hurt it.

Still, a nice coin! I hope you enjoy it for many years to come!
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 Posted 05/21/2020  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Looks like they were pretty tough on this one.
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 Posted 05/21/2020  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
I'm dumbfounded with NGC's call .
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 Posted 05/21/2020  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
Yea me too. I did initially think MS 62 at first glance, being a bit conservative. Did think it would get a bit of a bump from strike alone. Looking at other 62's they ALL have a weaker strike and far more points of contact.

Guessing the larger contact marks on the obverse held it back, but I was hoping for no lower than a 63. Their pic doesn't do it any justice, the carbon spot looks accentuated in this pic and color is not accurate.
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 Posted 05/21/2020  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
NGC has been conservative on the last few Buffs I've sent in. Have 4 more there now, will post when those return.
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 Posted 05/23/2020  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
I strongly disagree with NGC on this one. The reverse is dramatically better than their grade, and they disregarded strike, die state, and eye appeal. This would easily trade on a bourse floor three full points above NGC's grade as a raw coin.

I've handled quite a few Slider-MS-60-61-62 1913-S Type 2 Buffs, and there is no comparison with your coin. Every one of those coins had mushy strikes, numerous bag marks on obverse and reverse, and poor eye appeal.

Put a strip of electrical tape over the NGC grade, and show this one on a bourse floor (if and when we ever have shows again). This coin will garner plenty of attention.
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