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1826/5 Large Cent For Grading

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 Posted 03/10/2021  02:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnH4444 to your friends list
i would say around VF20 but might grade F15
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Wow! Lucky duck! F-15
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Nice...did you get it?
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Yes I did get it
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Good for you
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I'm not seeing the markers for either early or late state die markers for the overdate. I adjusted the contrast and blew up your coin and the 6 in the date just is not matching up as the overdate.

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Uh oh
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 Posted 03/11/2021  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
The seller pics aren't clear enough to make out the markers, but I think the top loop of the 6 is thicker than it would be in a normal date. Plus, as @jerryc39 said, I believe the position of the 6th star is diagnostic.
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the reverse is also diagnostic because n-8 is the only reverse that the point of leaf is centered between S and O. Learned this from Conder101 on another forum.
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Here is my attempt at image enhancement (amateur CSI work) in Photoshop. Quick and dirty no real time spent on it.

1826/5-Large-Cent-For-Grading
Obverse
1826/5-Large-Cent-For-Grading
Reverse

Inconclusive to me until coin is in hand. I'd say, it's close, I don't see the die chip, but all the other diagnostics seem to be correct.

From John Wright's The Cent Book 1816-1839, on this coin description (Page #134).

Obverse 7: Stars 4 and 13 point
between dentils and star 12 nearly
does. There is no inner circle. The
date is wide with 26 close. 6 is cut
over 5, the underfigure showing
strongest under the top curve of 6 .
Left edge of curl is centered over 2.
Star 6 is left of coronet tip. Star 13 has
a chip off the inner point. LIBERTY is
shallowly cut with minor recutting on I,
ER and strongest on foot of E. E tilts
left, ER feet almost touch, BE and RT
feet are apart. A light line joins the
tops of LI on earlier strikes.

Reverse G: Key leaves point NR,
FPR, R, PC. The S's are slightly
undersized. UN almost touch at tops.
O of ONE is low and leans left. Feet of
AMERI are all extremely close. N of
ONE has crumbling between left
upright and diagonal. There is very
minor recutting inside tops of both E's
of ONE CENT. This die comes with
bold, medium-sized center dot and
usually with minor dishing.

Striking Variations: These dies early
develop a mushy appearance. Dentilation
is rarely if ever crisp all around
both sides, and is usually incomplete.
The crumbling on N of ONE is usually
quite apparent. The crossbar of the
undercut 5 is crisp on early strikes, but
crumbling obscures it later. The
reverse rim dishes more and more,
and the letter-tops draw to the rim as
on the previous two varieties.

Discussion: R3, slightly the scarcest
1826 and definitely the most popular.
MS(9-12), AU(8-10), XF(several). The
premium demanded by this variety is
quite variable, occasionally running up
to 4X, but more often around 2X. Then
there are always the few who ride the
overdate bandwagon for all the market
will bear and manage to hook an
occasional fish at prices beyond even
these levels.

Book PDF link at NNP:
https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/530759
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Thanks Westcoin
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Quote:
Learned this from Conder101 on another forum.


Conder101 sounds like an introductory college course on large cents!
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It does! Forget his real name but he is way smarter than me on large cents. If he said its the overdate I feel very confident I was right. You are no slouch either Zurie.
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Quote:
Conder101 sounds like an introductory college course on large cents!


Gary certainly could teach it! Maybe even one on Condor Tokens too?

I learn a lot by reading the Condor101 posts on EAC stuff.
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yes Gary is his name. Smart guy
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