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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yes, appears cleaned. Low AU for me.
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New Member
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Thanks everyone for the advice. I was fearing dipped, but wanted to make sure. Even though it doesn't have luster, the coin is still very reflective and the view changes a lot based on lighting. Here are some more pics under different lighting.   |
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Australia
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Yes overdipped.
Send it to NGC.
Better chance of grading there.
Watch your top knot
Edited by echidna
04/30/2021 07:54 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'd say AU-50/53 sharpness, unsure if cleaned or dipped.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The coin is not showing hairlines from a cleaning, but there is no luster showing in the protected areas that is typical of a AU example. The coin has most likely been messed with by a dip or some type of cleaning. There is a chance the coin could net grades market acceptable at XF45, but likely grades AU Details cleaned.
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United States
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With the newer photos I can now see an AU50/53 on this one. More feathers left on the Eagles breast than I first thought. Details or not? That's a tough call, the TPGs seem to be a toss up on so many of these.
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Pillar of the Community
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Reflection-wise, the fields seems to flow into the devices. It is basically one grey mass. Therefore: AU Details, CLEANED.
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04/30/2021 11:15 am
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United States
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if it's worth sending to PCGS? You have the CCF opinions above on grade. I would put the ballpark value at $100 as a raw example. Below are ballpark values in a NGC or PCGS holder: AU53 $300 AU50 $200 AU Details $150 XF 45 $90 XF Details $65 If you feel the coin grades below AU50, do not send in for grading. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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AU details - cleaned then lightly polished
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4989 Posts |
AU-53 straight grade. Do check it under a loupe to make sure there are no fine hairlines.
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United States
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Thanks everyone, this was helpful. Looks like the consensus is AU 50/53 on wear, I originally felt a bit higher than that, but I'm new to this. Could also be that the shininess of the coin in real life made it look better than it really is. Most people think it's been cleaned/dipped (I don't see hairlines under magnification), but it's a bit unclear on whether it would grade a details or sneak out as a full grade. My curiosity has me in this one, so I think I'll take the advice that NGC might be more forgiving and try them.
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05/01/2021 07:41 am
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United States
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There are a couple of rim bruises too. I would think that may keep her in EF range.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The challenge on an AU-53 is it's a coin that's traveled around in peoples pockets, been touched by a lot of fingers, has a lot of scuffs, etc... so the real litmus test on a cleaning is whether it has a lot of fine lines under magnification. Lacking those, hard to argue that a coin in this condition was cleaned v/ just getting regular wear. Unnaturally shiny might be an indication too but at least in the picture this one looks fairly normal for the grade. An AU coin will still have hints of luster.
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Here is the coin under 10x magnification. There are imperfections on the surface, but they seem more random and natural to me than cleaning. Wouldn't cleaning be more parallel or swirled?   Edited by furion89
05/01/2021 08:59 am
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