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Lol of course I had to go and do that...#128580;#128299;  |
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I am the worst person with technology which is exactly why I work with power tools... &  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks who is cashing in on these: https://www.PCGS.com/cert/25234932Note the price for a normal coin with over polished dies. Think anyone will pay that for it? Looks like they are the ones cashing in for the fees. Edited by coop
06/16/2021 7:30 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Some people won't want to hear this, but PCGS and other companies seem to have no idea what No FG means, and their glaring lack of expertise in this area has cost collectors thousands of dollars. The proof is in the documet in my signature. It uses PCGS website-copied data and pictures with links to everything so you can check the info out for yourself. PCGS does not even seem to know a No FG 1982 can be told without ever having to flip the coin to the REV b/c the 1 on the OBV of the coin has no base. Its so easy to see and yet "the experts" miss this rookie level knowledge many times as can be seen by their online pictures posted for all to see. Get a Pepsi, sit back, read the paper, enjoy the investigation, and don't fall into the trap. Buy the coin and not the slab. The paper allows you to see absolute proof that a blind faith in the companies can cost you big time. BTW: Here is the obvious die marker PCGS and other "professionals" don't seem to know about. What bothers me is the company guarantees the grading experts they assign to grade each coin has a speciality in that specific coin (its in the paper). So how do so many obvious errors get by so many alleged Kennedy specialists?  How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2Edited by Earle42
06/17/2021 2:40 pm
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Ummm Coop, did bmy coin just get verified? Just a little confused? If so what do I need to do to get this thing to the heritage auction? I have no clue what I should be doing at this point
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Bedrock of the Community
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Earle42, thanks for the info! Very helpful!  |
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Pillar of the Community
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SmackRampage, the early and coop post you everything. I will try to certify and then send to Heritage. You never know.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I remember having to buy one in 1982 to keep my Kennedy set complete at the time. (Even though it is not technically part of the set)
The dealer was a good salesman.
I think you have THE 1982 P no FG here. Good for you.
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes Sir looks good to me....  |
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If so what do I need to do to get this thing to the Heritage Auction? I don't think Heritage takes submissions less than $5,000 value. You could try Great Collections. |
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If so what do I need to do to get this thing to the Heritage Auction? It is likely not worth getting this half dollar slabbed. It probably won't grade high enough. Look at ebay SOLD items and you can see an MS65 sold for 165.00 and another sold in MS65 for 85.00. Other prices are in between these. And some of the ones currently seen as sold on ebay are labeled incorrectly as being No FG. After the PCGS membership fee, attribution fee, selling fees, you might make 5.00. |
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To me they are a gimmick to sell these. They are just polished off die examples. They are die events, not die varieties. As a variety collector, they are of no interest to me.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Coop, I regularly will take your word on anything having to do with coins b/c research typically shows you know your stuff much better than I do. I have done a LOT of research into No FG Kennedy halves (see the paper I wrote linked in my signature), as well as handling many of them from various dates. I also with you that almost all of the dates claimed as No FG are die events. Besides finding traces of the polished off FG, you can normally find obvious details polished away on the surrounding feathers/etc. details where the FG was polished off. It is especially easy to find remnants of the FG where the tops edges of the F and the G intersect with the eagle's leg: two bumps from the letters' topmost right parts can be seen on the bottom of the leg. But this is not the case with the no-serif & no FG 1982 halves. Yes, there are polished off 1982 examples, but specimens of the 1982 w/ the OBV no-serif 1 has no initial remnants or polishing characteristics of the details in that area. As far as I can see, the no-serif & no FG 1982s are a legit die variety. I would very much appreciate data showing otherwise. I would also like to understand how just the FG could be missing from being polished without any residual polishing effects of the immediate surrounding elements. Not even the tiny, always left behind micro bumps I mentioned above are visible on the no-serif variety. Edited by Earle42
06/18/2021 12:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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@earle42
I read much of your paper. very interesting.
Is it a given that the same obverse die was always paired with a given reverse die?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I have never seen or heard of the No-serif being paired with anything but the No FG. I suppose they could have done it, but I have yet to see it. I not only rely on roll searching for this, but also hours and hours of studying/cataloging online images on ebay, PCGS, Heritage etc. at all labeled-as No FG halves. I wanted to make sure before I put that paper together that I could not find exceptions. |
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