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Basic no. If was fracture before the strike, the fracture will be coated. After the coating, the planchet go direct in the press. Between those operations, nothing can hit the planchet.
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I am confused. So this happpened after it was struck and was then coated?
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@vest my interpretation of this coin is that this is damage rather than a planchet issue or some other mint error. Exactly how it was done, I can't say but my interpretation of @sil is that part of this was sheared (parallel striations on outer part) and then at some point the remnant material fractured (rough, shiny thin portion).
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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I think that the coin took a rim hit denting it in like you see, then someone re-plated the coin with a new layer of zinc to make it look brighter and newer.
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They are coated on the stock metal. The zinc was on them before they even punched out. Note what your are seeing is the rim is shoved into the coin direction. This happened after the strike. So the coin is damaged. If there was a coating added to your coin, it was post strike and considered a re-processed coin. Post strike and considered a problem coin. (Not original surfaces) Just like plating a coin turns it into a spender with the plating altering the surface.
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I think that the coin took a rim hit denting it in like you see, then someone re-plated the coin with a new layer of zinc to make it look brighter and newer.  This exactly.  |
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I do not think this coin was re-plated. If re-plated the rim missing part will be plated. In my opinion took an hit after strike and fracture of the core metal detach. I want to be specific about production in 1943. The coins in 1943 was not plated, they was coated, which give ticker face layout of metal.
For me is very interesting coin and I will like to have.
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01/14/2022 10:37 pm
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silviosi, we don't know when this coin was re-plated, but you can tell just by looking at it (the shiny surface) that it obviously was re-plated. Interesting, but as coop has pointed out, numismatically ruined. |
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I come back to this topic, Excuse me all, in special the moderators, but I want to be separate for the purpose of education, and maybe to be put in dictionary or other places for education. This it is the reproduction photo from metallurgical manual of metallic improvement. They has the right to publish so I just reproduce instead to scan and etc., etc.  Any feed back I will be here to explain more. |
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silviosi, I believe you when you say this coin was coated (as I understand it, back in '43 when produced). But it is also obvious from looking at it's surface that this particular coin has been also re-plated. When was it re-plated in reference to the damage? I cannot even speculate, but was it at some point in it's life re-plated? I think the evidence says YES. Can it not be both "coated" and then later "re-plated"? |
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You are right for all the points you say. The coin is ruinated, YES, PMD. I will pay to have this coin to analyze, because what it is bizarre on coating, some surfaces of the coins show like plating. For me this it is interesting to analyze to know how to determine is re-plated or not. Sorry, I like those Bl****h. My default. |
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silviosi, I have no proof this coin has been re-plated, but I think others here will join me when I say it has the "look" of a re-plated coin (the shine of it's surface), not the duller silver a non re-plated steel cent has to it. |
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Merc, the problem it is not the proof for re-plating and I do not push out this supposition. Far from me. It is interesting for me from the point of view of finding markers for.
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01/14/2022 11:31 pm
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