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1909 VDB 1c Matte Proof?

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 Posted 08/25/2022  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list

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 Posted 08/25/2022  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sei62461 to your friends list
Here are some cropped images of the coin.
The pictures don't do the coin justice since they were taken with camera on the phone.

Will try to get better photo's to post.


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 Posted 08/25/2022  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
You've cropped them, now enlarge them!
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Better pictures and out of the 2by2
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Warning...Chinese replicas also have a porous look. Better pics will help. We need to be able to zoom to see details. Here is some help:

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 Posted 08/25/2022  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list

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Ron Guth:
In April 2010, Brian Wagner and Kevin Flynn announced the discovery of a new, second die pair used to strike Matte Proof Lincoln cents in 1909. The new die pair exhibits the following characteristics:

Obverse:

Heavy die scratch from left bottom of N of IN to center of N.
Several vertical die scratches above IN GOD.
Several small die scratches between GO of GOD.
Several small die scratches in field below second T of TRUST.
Heavy die scratch from left bottom of T of LIBERTY through the R.
Reverse:

Die scratch from M of UNUM left into the field above E of ONE.
Horizontal die scratch in field to the right of the C of CENT.
Die scratch from the center of E to the N of CENT.
Die scratch through the middle of UN of UNITED.
Small over large TE of UNITED.
Die scratch through the lower TAT of STATES.
Die chip next to the rim at 3 o'clock.
Because of the rarity of this die pair in a year that has been studied intensively by numismatists, Wagner and Flynn believe this was a die pair used in December 1909 to produce 180 Proof coins to either finish Proof sets for this year or to satisfy collector demand.

It will be interesting to see how quickly [after June 14, 2010] additional examples will be discovered now that this die pair is known.

UPDATE: In April 2014, Brian Wagner indicated that, after reviewing every appearance of 1909 Matte Proof Lincoln Cents, he could only find 12 examples from this new, second die pair. Out of 43 1909 Matte Proof Lincoln Cents illustrated on PCGS CoinFacts, only six were from the second die pair.


You has all the description of the Matte proof 1909. I can not see from your photos.

Seem not for me.
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Await larger images from OP.
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IMHO I really do not believe your coin is a Matte Proof . I'll say a porous business strike . Slider Unc .
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Rims don't seem square enough, better pics needed.
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Rims don't seem square enough, better pics needed.

That was my first observation as well
Will be waiting on much better images
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The rims and lack of crisp razor sharp devices .
Ordinary business strike .
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Here's another photo of the obverse.
Best I can get.
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Note how weak the strike is. On a Matte proof they are strong as they are struck twice:
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Big Difference on the strikes on the matte proof cents
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The VDB matte proofs are about 10X's more valuable than the non VDB matte proofs.

CoopHome: How are Matte proofs different than non matte proof coins? Struck twice. The design is a lot stronger.
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