Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors 300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsRoyal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Help With Identifying Coins Authenticity And Value Please (Id: 2 Reales, 1811, Zacatecas Mint Mark)

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 25 / Views: 3,097Next Topic Page 2 of 2
Pillar of the Community
United States
3343 Posts
 Posted 11/18/2022  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
Here is a 2R which is almost an exact match. The denomination is at the top. The 1181 date is also the same.

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide...duid-1417832

If genuine this is a $500+ coin IMO. I'm still skeptical though.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq
11/18/2022 5:47 pm
Pillar of the Community
United States
1801 Posts
 Posted 11/18/2022  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list
Could be legit. Really need some clearer more detailed photos.
Pillar of the Community
United States
1757 Posts
 Posted 11/18/2022  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
If you look closer on top of the crown we see 2R so the 2R denomination is placed correctly. Although its been awhile since I bought a few 2R LVO's due to the recent INSANITY in this field of Latin American Coinage. See here: https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide...duid-1417832

The weights are variable on these pieces but generally in the same ballpark and the pieces crude particularly for this earlier style. The piece pictured has the correct legends, the date is retrograde (reversed), the 2R is placed correctly (value above crown) and for all you bibliophiles out there see Superior Stamp & Coin Co. Buddy De Silva Collection, 2/1978 L1643 - one of the finest known as a comparison example along with this link above. Does it contain trace Au? Hope so ... <VVBG>. JPL
New Member
United States
7 Posts
 Posted 01/26/2023  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 10611800 to your friends list

Help-With-Identifying-Coins-Authenticity-And-Value-Please-Id:-2-Reales,-1811,-Zacatecas-Mint-Mark
Help-With-Identifying-Coins-Authenticity-And-Value-Please-Id:-2-Reales,-1811,-Zacatecas-Mint-Mark
Help-With-Identifying-Coins-Authenticity-And-Value-Please-Id:-2-Reales,-1811,-Zacatecas-Mint-Mark
New Member
United States
7 Posts
 Posted 01/26/2023  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 10611800 to your friends list
SORRY FORGOT TO ADD it WEIGHS A LITTLE OVER 7grams




Help-With-Identifying-Coins-Authenticity-And-Value-Please-Id:-2-Reales,-1811,-Zacatecas-Mint-Mark
Pillar of the Community
United States
2365 Posts
 Posted 01/27/2023  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
7 grams seems light to me. They were very crudely made coins. From what I'm seeing, I would say that this coin is real compared to others of that era, except for the weight (which is oh so important). I could be incorrect though. These are a bit tough to define.
Pillar of the Community
United States
3343 Posts
 Posted 01/27/2023  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
I found two coins identical to yours listed on MercadoLibre about a month ago. They are no longer there, but the images can still be seen if you google "zacatecas 1811 lvo mercadolibre". I was unable to copy and paste them.

The weight is way too low for an 8R. I have a worn authentic 1812 Zacatecas portrait head provisional which weighs 26.4 grams. Your coin is about the right weight for a 2R, and I can't see 8R on your coin either. What is the diameter? An 8R should be very close to 38mm.

Here is a similar authentic 1811 2R.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/mexico/wor...ption-071515

The denomination is at the top of the coin, on both sides of the crown. Looking at your image, I think I can make out 2R.

FWIW, mercadolibre has what appears to be an authentic 1811 LVO 2R. At today's Mexican peso conversion it's $633. USD.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq
01/27/2023 10:31 pm
New Member
United States
7 Posts
 Posted 01/27/2023  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 10611800 to your friends list
Same thickness as a penny mostly
Pillar of the Community
United States
3343 Posts
 Posted 01/27/2023  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
A 2R is about as thick as a penny, and the diameter is a little larger than a quarter. 27mm. An 8R is a little larger than a US silver dollar, but not as thick.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq
01/27/2023 10:35 pm
Pillar of the Community
United States
1757 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2023  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
Looks genuine to me. Weights do vary but 7.X is acceptable for this regal weight window range for a 2 Reale. John Lorenzo, Numismatist
Pillar of the Community
United States
3343 Posts
 Posted 01/28/2023  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
The problem I have colonialjohn is the two coins identical to this one on MercadoLibre. And I mean identical: same centering, same letters visible, same wear, same stars.These coins are notable for their variability, not their sameness.

The ones on MercadoLibre were priced to sell too, for around $100 if I recall correctly. Authentic 2R's in this condition are $500-1000.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Valued Member
United States
58 Posts
 Posted 01/29/2023  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silvering to your friends list
Pillar of the Community
United States
1962 Posts
 Posted 05/26/2023  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list
https://www.ebay.com/itm/285273895669

EDIT - and a bigger oops:
https://www.greatcollections.com/Co...C-VF-Details

PS - Can the title of this be altered what this actually is - "ID: 2 Reales...", not "8 Reales"?
Edited by realeswatcher
05/26/2023 4:04 pm
Pillar of the Community
United States
1962 Posts
 Posted 08/16/2023  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list
LOL... another example of this fake 1811 Zacatecas LVO 2 Reales bid up over $500! A new example from the OP piece and the two I linked a few months back:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/385905647774
Help-With-Identifying-Coins-Authenticity-And-Value-Please-Id:-2-Reales,-1811,-Zacatecas-Mint-Mark
Help-With-Identifying-Coins-Authenticity-And-Value-Please-Id:-2-Reales,-1811,-Zacatecas-Mint-Mark
Edited by realeswatcher
08/16/2023 1:07 pm
Pillar of the Community
United States
1757 Posts
 Posted 08/23/2023  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
I'll admit its a good fake since a regal is crude looking to begin with - DANGEROUS.
Page 2 of 2   Previous TopicReplies: 25 / Views: 3,097Next Topic Page 2 of 2
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.36 seconds to rattle this change. Forums