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How To Tell The Difference Between 1970 No S Proof And 1970 Philadelphia?

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 Posted 11/30/2024  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
The simple answer is that there are no proof 1970 Lincoln cents without an S mintmark. So if it's a 1970 Lincoln Cent without a mintmark in a cellophane mint package, it's a business strike from Philadelphia.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Zurie has a good answer, as well as the others.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Not all that complicated, I think.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
The comparison between a proof and business strike is very noticeable in its finish.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Nothing the OP has shown us has a remotely proof surface.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list
This post was a multi question post. 1st question essentially got answered, the 1970 No S is a San Francisco Business strike, and not a San Francisco Proof. Second Question not that I still don't understand how an individual can recognize the difference from a 1970 Philadelphia and the 1970 No S business strike for San Francesco. Since San Francisco made a 1970 S for both proof and Business strike I wasn't sure which one it was.. same goes for the nickel.. now I do. Besides the coin being in a specific location in the mint bag, how would anyone tell? San Francisco Die was better than the typical Philadelphia die? I know I am terrible and writing my questions and speaking on what confuses me but my goodness, get past if my coin is a proof or not. that was a fraction of my questions. Thank you for your responses however if you aren't being mean. Cheers
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 Posted 11/30/2024  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
I'm sorry, what are we even talking about here? The 1970 No S proof dime is a Roosevelt dime. Are we discussing a hypothetical No S proof cent for that year? Or is this just confusion over the 1970 and 1970-S uncirculated business strike cents?
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Brandmeister This post is about the Lincoln Cent. How can you tell the difference between a 1970 No S Lincoln Cent from San Francisco, compared to a basic 1970 Philadelphia Lincoln Cent? I know the San Francisco 1970 is supposed to have an S, but for the error no matter how rare it might be to find, what else could be looked for to know the difference between the two Mints? I'm talking about the 1970 No S San Francisco penny that can be discovered in a ten piece Mint set that contains coins from all three mints P,D & S
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 Posted 11/30/2024  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
it is easy to tell a proof from a business strike.
a proof die AND planchets are prepared differently - to a higher standards when would be for a normal business strike coin that is intended for commerce (spending, dropping in a parking lot or other types of coin torture.
Here have a look:
a 1970-S Proof cent
How-To-Tell-The-Difference-Between-1970-No-S-Proof-And-1970-Philadelphia? How-To-Tell-The-Difference-Between-1970-No-S-Proof-And-1970-Philadelphia?
and now a 1970-S Business strike
How-To-Tell-The-Difference-Between-1970-No-S-Proof-And-1970-Philadelphia? How-To-Tell-The-Difference-Between-1970-No-S-Proof-And-1970-Philadelphia?
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Nice presentation, well done.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list

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I know the San Francisco 1970 is supposed to have an S, but for the error no matter how rare it might be to find

I scoured Google for a 1970 No S cent and found nothing. Can you post a link?


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I'm talking about the 1970 No S San Francisco penny that can be discovered in a ten piece Mint set that contains coins from all three mints P,D & S

This 1970 United States Mint set is the 12th year of issue. It includes 10 coins, consisting of the nickel, dime, quarter struck at the Philadelphia and Denver Mints, the cent was struck at San Francisco, Philadelphia and Denver Mints with the half dollar struck only at the Denver Mint.

The uncirculated set with three business strike cents (P/D/S) was obviously assembled with all the coins together somewhere. If you found two 1970 cents with no mint mark, and the 1970-S was missing, then I would interpret that as someone accidentally placing two Philadelphia cents into the packaging. It seems like a leap to assume that there would be a No S business strike cent in that situation, because it can be so easily explained by simple manual error.

In contrast, the 1970 No S proof dime cannot be explained as anything other than a missing mint mark, because dime proofs were only struck in San Francisco.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
PEOPLE poster is asking about business struck cents (that being said)


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How can you tell the difference between a 1970 No S Lincoln Cent from San Francisco, compared to a basic 1970 Philadelphia Lincoln Cent?


If this cent did exist there would be NO WAY TO TELL the difference....because in 1970 all dies were made in Philly then divided up and shipped to Denver and San Francisco and from there the mint marks would be applied to the die (by hand) and that's also what gives us variety coins with an RPM (re-punched mint mark)
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 Posted 11/30/2024  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
There is absolutely no difference between business strike cents minted in Philly or San Francisco other than the mintmark. So if a 1970 Lincoln Cent has no mintmark, you can assume it was minted in Philadelphia.
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Ok, My confusion is answered. Very informative, thank you! Also nice pictures and that also makes sense how the rpm's are produced, always wondered and never put two and two together. The different varieties have me curious about the small date and large date 1970 s business and proofs strikes. So many variations of error possibilities. Thank you!
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