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Bad Photo Lottery Rides Again: 1945 Walking Liberty Half Dollar For Grading (?)

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 Posted 12/19/2024  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
Hmm. I guess I'm with paralyse, send me those AU slider this way also.
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 Posted 12/19/2024  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list

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ps. hfjacinto, if your store is selling common date slider AU Walkers for $19, shoot me an inventory list...I've got quite a few Dansco coins I'd love to upgrade at that price.


I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I honestly look at the prices you guys pay for stuff on ebay and it blows my mind. I pick up locally so much cheaper. If this coin was offered to me at $19, I would pass.
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 Posted 12/19/2024  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adam126402 to your friends list
HFJacinto, I was at my local coin shop last Saturday and my thought after looking at prices was the exact opposite. They are good guys, however, and have always treated me well.
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 Posted 12/19/2024  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
I am with the OP, bad photos are fun. I picked up an uncirculated 1831 bust half for $70.99 a few months ago. It just takes experience from studying all kinds of lighting, background colors, recognizing luster, all while looking past a blurry lens. With enough knowledge you can buy anything with the utmost confidence.
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 Posted 12/19/2024  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
I had the opposite with blurry photos, I purchased an IHC that was very well priced, got it home and it had corrosion, shipped it right back. So unless the photos are clear, I won't buy. Another reason I rarely buy on ebay.
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 Posted 12/19/2024  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Same here, well stated.
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 Posted 12/19/2024  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I don't entirely disagree. I haven't bought anything expensive on ebay in a few years now. But I occasionally make small purchases for fun. There are no longer any local coin shops near me (the last one closed up years ago and the nearest is an hour away) and the only show that was near me was TNA, and they've since relocated to near Houston (a 4 hour drive.) So I don't have many opportunities to buy coins otherwise.

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 Posted 12/19/2024  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
My greatest issue with coin shops is selection. There are a few around me but they hardly ever have anything I want. With an internet connection you can compare most of what is currently available for sale in a few minutes of searching ebay, auction houses, shop aggregates, etc. At this point I am really annoyed having to travel to a coin shop crap shoot even if it's a short distance. Also I get automatic notifications if something I am looking for comes up for sale. I have want lists in many places.

Coin shows are ok for socializing, but I get overwhelmed because the stuff is so haphazard throughout the expansive floor. It is really difficult to comparison shop. You can't look at stuff side by side which is easier to do online even if the pictures aren't great.

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 Posted 12/19/2024  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
A few years ago, I had no issues buying low cost items for fun, but I would rather pay a little more and get something that I like more.

I have 4 really good coin shops near me (under an hour away) and 2 shows within an hour (and that's skipping the 2 shops with nice things that the owners aren't who I want to deal with). If I really want a nice coin show Baltimore is 3 hours away.

Tomorrow I'm going to my local coin shop , I put 2 raw MS Morgans on hold. I'll pay $160 and then pick up 2-3 raw IHC.

If none of the LCS have what I need I would rather buy from Allen's of Ohio rather than ebay. I'm not saying don't buy on ebay , but ebay is a more costlier purchase so why buy there?

Picking my own coins is much more enjoyable than looking on the internet. But that's me, many people like the internet.

The issue with the 1945 (for me is the soft strike/ possible wear and the spot by her feet), I just wouldn't get this coin even at $19. This is where the ability to actually examine a coin/note is importante to me.
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 Posted 12/20/2024  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Yeah. I really miss the days of browsing coin shops, picking through piles of coins looking for hole fillers, etc. Used to sit and sort through stacks of raw silver and chit chat with the owners and fill up holes. Unfortunately at least here where I am at all of those shops have either closed up or switched to bullion sales only and no longer sell collector coins, only modern bullion. The nearest shop to me closed its doors and went online only due to the expense of running a B&M storefront, the insurance costs, and constant issues with theft.

I remember being a kid and picking through the 10x face box of junk silver and that was so much fun. Whatever happened to shops like that? I don't know, but they've all gone away, it seems.

There is another shop about an hour away but the owners are legendary for being complete jerks and also have a bad reputation of scamming newbies by lowballing the heck out of people who come in looking to sell inherited collections, etc. The shop won't even let you take out and examine or hold any of their coins unless you buy them first. Beyond that, there's not a coin shop within a hundred-mile radius. But I can throw a rock and hit 50 gold and silver bullion stores selling rounds, bars, etc. all hyping the coming end of civilization and the urgent need to spend all of your income on stacking PM's before the impending apocalypse.

Show-wise, the only show that comes here now is the Grapevine show, but it's an hour+ drive and a small show with only a few tables. Our main show here was the TNA annual, which was held about 20m from my house, and always had tons of great tables and dealers, but due to rising costs of floor space TNA relocated to a small town outside of Houston which is 4+ hour drive even if I drive well above the speed limit. I am still working 50-65 hour 6 day weeks and don't have time to go on road trips.

I prefer to win coins by bidding instead of outright purchases; after 30+ years now my collection is pretty full, so I focus on things that you can't buy in most coin shops, mostly foreign coins, medieval and ancient coins. If I had a lot of money to spend on coins I'd just shop on Heritage or GC. I'm part of a network with a lot of dealers and we have a private buy-trade-sell group on facebook but it's mostly stuff I don't need, don't want or can't remotely afford.
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 Posted 12/20/2024  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Love bad photos on ebay. Made some great buys doing that. ebay brings the world to my door. Found an 1875 IHC Snow 16, Dot on N , on ebay . 150 bucks on an ebay listing out of Israel. Couldn't buy it fast enough. Flipped it for 1100 bucks as soon as I received it.
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 Posted 12/22/2024  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
AU-58, light wear on the high points.
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 Posted 12/23/2024  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
This is expected to come in today so we'll see!
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 Posted 12/23/2024  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Decent Walker. Has nice full cartwheel luster in hand, but there are a few faint hairlines on the obverse, so I'm okay with calling this one AU58 / Slider Unc. which is how I will be adding it to my inventory.

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 Posted 12/24/2024  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list
Nice Walker. I, too, enjoy playing the "bad photo lottery" from time to time. I'd say I'm ahead of the game overall, but I've gotten bum steers a few times. I've gotten cleaned coins now and again, but I've also gotten coins much better than expected.
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