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Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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03/11/2025 11:23 pm
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Here's an article on Mike Byers' website which has a brief discussion on intentional errors. It includes a quote by the Managing Editor of Coin World: "Obviously, the marketplace accepts these coins, and some collectors are happy paying thousands of dollars for coins that show every indication of having been created through illegal means." https://mikebyers.com/31862448.htmlThere is a link in that article for a very interesting interview of Fred Weinberg by Seth Chandler. Here's another interesting error that I ran across that I have a hard time explaining other than being intentionally made:  Member of SPMC, FCCB, ANA and ANS. My U.S. Classic Commemorative Complete Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/278741/My U.S. Fractional Note Set: https://notes.www.collectors-societ...eSetID=34188 |
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Just a thought - is it an "error" if it was intentional?
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Just a thought - is it an "error" if it was intentional? Good question Hondo. Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507 |
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It seems funny that PCGS was compelled to designate a a grade to the Dime on the Nail!
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Personally as a collector, I see these intentional mint errors same way as post mint damage. That 1972 Ike dollar is definitely post mint damage in my book and although very interesting, I wouldn't pay extra for something that looks like a vise job lol |
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It seems funny that PCGS was compelled to designate a a grade to the Dime on the Nail! I couldn't find the page for grading nails on the PCGS Photograde site.  Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Here's another interesting error that I ran across that I have a hard time explaining other than being intentionally made: I cannot have it, but I want it.  |
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By the way, the nail sold for over $42K...  Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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I think that, almost by definition, a mint error cannot be intentional. But as anything that comes out of the mint seems to attract collector interest, that seems to be unimportant from a commercial perspective. Intentional "errors" have the potential to be more spectacular, not being limited by the normal processes in a mint. A number of errors that came out of the Royal Canadian Mint were suspected of being deliberate. |
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I cannot have it, but I want it. I figured you'd love that one, jbuck!  |
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Just a thought - is it an "error" if it was intentional? I'm a bit torn by that myself - I sort of feel the same way about those types of "errors" as I do about photoshopped or AI-generated photographs; they're sometimes fascinating to look at, but they're not "real"! Member of SPMC, FCCB, ANA and ANS. My U.S. Classic Commemorative Complete Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/278741/My U.S. Fractional Note Set: https://notes.www.collectors-societ...eSetID=34188 |
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Here's another interesting error that I ran across that I have a hard time explaining other than being intentionally made It was stamped by a 1972 cent, it would be awesome if it was a 1972 DDO that got stamped twice. |
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Quote:I figured you'd love that one, jbuck! You know me.  |
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There is a term used to describe something which might otherwise be classifiable as a "mint error", but which isn't literally an "error" because it was deliberately made: a "mint sport". A mint sport is what it says on the box: someone inside the mint having some fun, using mint equipment in an unauthorized (and probably not entirely safe) fashion to create non-usual-looking coins.
Mint sports are nevertheless a subcategory of "mint errors", simply because such an object cannot preserve the "intent" of the person doing it. Most "mules", for example, are honest mistakes: someone in the Mint accidentally inserted the wrong working die into the press, and no-one noticed until after a few thousand coins were already struck. But it's also entirely possible for a mint worker to deliberately insert the wrong die, and cause some mules to be made. You can't really tell the "mint error mules" and the "mint sport mules" apart just by examining the coins; you need to examine the context in which the coins were found and make some educated guesses or assumptions. Were they found all mixed up amongst the coins issued for general circulation? Then they're probably accidents and thus "errors". Were they found on the person of a mint worker trying to smuggle them out of the mint, or every single known example just happened to end up in the possession of the exact same coin dealer? Then they're "sports".
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