1870-CC Seated Liberty Dollar Grade?

If the Seller thought for one second that the coin would straight grade it would have been slabbed before it was listed. Seller noted in their ebay listing that the coin "may nave been cleaned at one time" so that gets them off the hook for non disclosure if somebody had asked. Yeah, it may be "In God We Trust" in this old world but at least you did your homework and asked for opinions and several of us thought it was possibly cleaned. I've had my share of problem coins over the past 50+ years and I wouldn't have been ashamed to own this one. It is what it is.

(By the way it's BIN price on ebay was 2295$. Not bad, all things considered.)

Westcoon, I had actually contacted the seller through their web site and they agreed to sell for $2,075 direct but I was too slow to react. I would have been good to go since I prefer raw coins. Thankfully there are always more coins to go find!

Thanks all for the feedback!

That is a tough coin. VF obverse and EF reverse. Definitely cleaned at one time, and it's hard to say if it's market acceptable at this point without examining it in person. Based on photos alone, I'd say a net VF-30 Details, Cleaned. But personally I wouldn't buy a coin like that raw.

As Paul Harvey use to say "and now for the rest of the story."

Turns out this coin made its way into a CACG VG Details holder. I thought this was VF20, VG is ridiculous, IMO.

I think I saw this sold listing when I was interested in the coin but dismissed it seeing that it was graded VG and it had a greenish color to the coin.

When I looked at it again, I looked at the reverse and it was a clear match with the rim ding just after 4 o'clock. The first seller pics of the obverse obscured several obvious makers like the rim ding at 8 o'clock.

As noted by Westcoin, the second seller mentioned possible old cleaning.

Three resellers vied for this coin at the first auction. For posterity, here are some pics including CACGs. Also CACG price guide for this details coin was $2,200.

I still would not be opposed to owning this coin.

VG is a joke. That Reverse is XF and even if netted on the Obverse, no way.

Same logic applied to my Seated dollars, although they are in a much lower price bracket.

I agree with the upthread discussions. Technical grade, cleaning, net grade, CAC nonsense, and other observations aside, it's not like there is an abundance of Carson City Seated dollars anywhere. The 1870-CC is the "common" CC date, but it is in demand in any grade. This coin is absolutely collectable and would be an easy sale on any bourse floor.

For certain, I know that feeling all too well. "The one that got away" will eat us alive if we let it. The only way any of us can move is forward, so look ahead to the next coin you will have an opportunity to buy. With very few exceptions, there will always be another coin of the same date and mint that will show up somewhere sometime, and it may turn out to be a better coin. Sometimes that next coin is a different date or a better eye appeal coin or more affordable or part of a package deal that makes the opportunity even better. Hang in there.