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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have always wanted to keep track of what I paid for a coin, but never have had the time to enter it anywhere. Also thought about keeping track of current value, but again too much work to update unless it would be once a year kinda thing.
Also really don't have a record of the coins that I do have, unless they are in an album, then it is more of a list of the coins I don't have.
I do have a spread sheet started, Denomination, Series, Date, MM, Grade but eveything under the headings are blank.
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Valued Member
 United States
116 Posts |
Thanks to all for your response. Here is reason I asked this question. About a year ago, I got a questionare from my home owners insurance. It was asking about home improvements, additions and coin,stamp,gun - collections. I gave it some thought, but later trashed it. Now with a recent break-in two doors down, I thought again about calling my insurance agent. Have no clue what they would require or ask as proof that I even have a coin collection, but was thinking - I really don't know the value of my collection or how to determine value. I don't keep up with value or amount paid - as stated, I only keep inventory of date/mint/quantity/grade.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1055 Posts |
I keep up detailed records of every coin I buy, date I purchased a coin. Company, individual, ebay acct. ect. Purchased from, year, denom, grade, TPG, attribution, amt. paid, current market value (I only update once a year). It is pivotal to keep detailed records in my opinion. The main reason is for the person who inherits my collection after I am gone to know what they have and a decent chance of not getting ripped off if they go to sell them. I actually have three separate spreadsheets going. One dedicated only to items purchased, date of purchased and price paid. The second is my 7070 documentation of all details of the coins I have in the set, about 10 different columns in this one. And A master collection excel book with a sheet for every denomination, bullion, and would coins. I agree It is a bit time consuming to keep up with but it is very useful when you want to know what you have or need to finish a set. I also think it is required to have documentation and a picture of each coin you want to have insured.
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Valued Member
United States
266 Posts |
I have my database set up to include price paid. I like to see little things like how much I have paid, as to how much I figure it's worth, or how much I have paid per dealer, and various other ways to use it. Like some others, I don't plan on selling my coins, so it is all for personal use, anyway.
As for the fair market value.. I do it every couple of years, and base it out of one of the Red Books. I figure that if I update it every 5 or 6 years, it keeps it enough up to date. With over 3000 coins in my collection, in my opinion, it isn't worth updating more often than that.
And besides, that is what makes me happy about my collecting, and isn't that why we all do it?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2541 Posts |
I keep track of it in an excel spreadsheet. I only started collecting a couple of years ago, so I don't have a huge inventory of coins that I've purchased. I don't track price since it changes and it's tough to really put a value on it until you actually sell something.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2602 Posts |
Also use Excel, log every purchase, but don't keep the current value up to date, because of grading variability.
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 United States
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I use a spreadsheet as well. I enter the price I paid for the coin (or FOUND when I find them in circulation). For fun, I update the "values" from the Red Book whenever I buy a new Red Book (every five years or so); mostly to track how the relative value has changed over the years. (Yes, I retain each of the previous value entries).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2049 Posts |
I keep track only on the coins that go into white cardboard 2x2's. I code it on the back of the card like many coin dealers do. I also put the date I acquired the coin, and the source (initials of coin shop, GS for garage sale, FM for flea market, CRL for Craigslist purchase, etc). The only one that really matters to me is the purchase price and it only matters if I am going to resell it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1026 Posts |
Well try to I use Coin Organizer Deluxe and love it.
It also has many other database uses like passwords, address book almost unlimited uses.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
Quote:
Thanks to all for your response. Here is reason I asked this question. About a year ago, I got a questionare from my home owners insurance. It was asking about home improvements, additions and coin,stamp,gun - collections. I gave it some thought, but later trashed it. Now with a recent break-in two doors down, I thought again about calling my insurance agent. Have no clue what they would require or ask as proof that I even have a coin collection, but was thinking - I really don't know the value of my collection or how to determine value. I don't keep up with value or amount paid - as stated, I only keep inventory of date/mint/quantity/grade.
I would be carefull with that. Many years ago you knew your insurance salesperson personally. Your info was just info in their local records. Today things are a little different. Your personal info goes into a computer and the entire insurance company has access to that info. Note the turnover in insurance personal is also something to worry about. You have no idea of who has your personal info on what is in your house. Anyone working in an insurance company with your personal info and get layed off or fired could be using your info for other reasons you wouldn't really like. It not only could, but does happen. I remember walking into a local rep for my Auto insurance and asked the lady at the front desk to discuss adding on another auto. She simply opened my account in her computer and there was my name, address, age, driving record, phone number, quantity of cars, their ages, milage, payment types, dates, how paid, check numbers and bank name, etc., etc., etc. And she was just the receptionist. So be carefull of who you tell anything to about a coin collection. The best insurance for a coin collection is keep your mouth shut.
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Valued Member
United States
266 Posts |
Very good point, Just Carl!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
581 Posts |
I really don't want to open this can of worms, but if your collection becomes sizeable (and worth some serious money), and you want to sell it, it really helps to have records for tax purposes.
Unfortunately, that would probably be more than a spreadsheet. I try to keep my receipts and just throw them in a jar I have. I do nothing else with them, but I know they're there in case, one day......
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Pillar of the Community
United States
790 Posts |
Personally, I view my spreadsheet as a hugely important part of my collection. Thankfully I started the spreadsheet when I didn't have too many coins and I keep it up religiously. I definitely keep track of prices paid as well as date purchased. I also record every bit of info I can for each coin, but never thought to record the place I purchased from. With an incredibly detailed spreadsheet I can sort and organize the data any way I want to learn all kinds of information about my collection, including how much I spent this year or last year, exactly how much silver is in my collection, what is the lowest mintage coin, etc. I always add the price of postage to what I paid. If I buy a coin off of ebay for $10 and postage is $2, then I'll record $12. In the case of lots of coins, which I definitely buy a lot of (good pun), I look at the total price I paid for the lot with shipping, then break that total over all of the coins in the lot. With this method I can tell very quickly what my collection is "worth", the answer is of course, priceless.
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Valued Member
United States
80 Posts |
YES YES YES, keep track. Just in case of a fire, loss, theft. You need to ensure you have a copy off-site of your list. Ensure that you also keep records of the condition along with photo's. You want to ensure home owners insurance will cover any/all loss.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
1248 Posts |
carl... you are dead ON!!! I had a break in years ago..under similar circumstances.. 35 years ago lost all my canadian silver and paper that way...many high end 50 cent pieces and dollars, quarters, rare (even then) bills...rolls of siver dollars... value at the time approx $ 30,000... I still shudder... culprits were traced back by police to a person who stood next to me when I wrote a check for a Paper bill purchase in a coin store. he approached me outside asking if I was a collector. he offered me some old bills he apparently had. Unsuspecting I invited him to my home... the rest is history... However, it was NOT him who broke in to my home a few days later...It was his buddies... BUT he got cought trying to sell several bills of mine...a dealer recognized the interesting serial number of a $50 bill which ended in .....505050. the whole gang was cought. turned out I was not the only victim.. so Lesson 1 when you keep your coins at home: Keep it a secret!!
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