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Pillar of the Community
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Call error specialist/dealer Fred Weinberg before you make a decision on what to do. He'll give you good advice.
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Brent; the "P.C." on the envelope identifies this set as proof.
I wouldnt break the set until someone with more experience gives you a compelling reason to do so.
Right now, it's a set. Nice find, too !
Edited by j_h_s
05/14/2010 07:15 am
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Pillar of the Community
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This is NOT a die crack. It's struck through thread. VERY simple difference - your line is sunken in. A die crack would be raised. Furthermore, the line rides over the letters. A die crack would not ride over the letters like they weren't there....and I personally wouldn't ever bust a set for something like that. They are rather common.
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From  to  with one post. I should have realized that on the tail feathers for sure, the line is sunk in - but it sure looks risen everywhere else. I think being in the pack makes it look raised, I have tried turning the pack on its side and still think it might be raised but the facts are the facts - it cant be a die crack if it is sunken - it must be struck through - so thanks coppercoins for taking me back to 1st grade for a refresher course. School was never this fun. Sad its not a die crack but happy to get the facts - back in the safe it goes. If proofs are handled by hand and inspected before they are put into there packs - how does something so obvious get by the handlers? Peace Brent |
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Pillar of the Community
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Wow, I've got to pay attention. Now that Chuck has pointed it out, it's rather obvious. Maybe I'll just go back to just lurking and not posting.
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Pillar of the Community
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Proof coins are handled by hand, but they are not inspected except for obvious problems. The dies are much mor eclosely inspected before they are hung on the press, but because this was an obstruction on the die, it would not have been there during inspection.
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Pillar of the Community
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Brent
One variety you can keep a lookout for in the 64 proof sets
are the "accented hair" kennedy halfs. I have found a couple
and they bring a decent premium. Unless it may look like a PR69/70
just leave it in the cello wrapper.
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Valued Member
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Thanks all - even though I did learn a thing or two on this thread - I wish I would have looked at it closer before posting "Best die break I have found" - lol. I think I said on one of my first posts here, I only know enough to be dangerous, I have proven that now.
I will keep my eyes out for the varieties but for now I have to start putting everything back away to get ready for my 3 month trip to Alaska. Boy I am going to miss lurking around this site.
Thanks again to all -
Peace
Brent
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Pillar of the Community
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Don't be too hard on yourself Brent. The majority of us here are "dangerous", myself included. It's just part of the learning process.
I guess I'd rather post, find out I'm wrong, and why, rather than thinking I know the answer.
Had you just chalked that up as your 500th die crack and not posted, none of us would have learned from this thread. Plus, I think it sticks with you better once you've "experienced" it rather than just hearing or reading about it passively.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Brent: I've added your images to my educational file.  Edited by coop
05/20/2010 6:33 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Very cool coop, glad to be part of your educational files that help others learn. I find your files and overlays quite helpful and educational. Keep up the good work
Peace
Brent
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Bedrock of the Community
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Sad its not a die crack but happy to get the facts - back in the safe it goes.
IMO you should be happier that it is struck through a thread rather than just a die crack, that makes it a legitimate error and not a common sign of die wear and tear. |
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 Two years ago I would not have thought that, but now I know better.  Nice find!  Quote:
my thinking was - never opened, worth more Yeah, but where is the fun in that? Not knowing would drive me nuts! Keep opening those sealed bags, rolls, and envelopes, people! |
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Pillar of the Community
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 I have a different outlook, I collect proof/mint sets among other things and would NOT break this set open, just because it is in a sealed you S Mint cello, and it therefore is an obvious authentic Mint error, no question. I would also be glad, as mentioned, it is a struck through thread error and not a die crack, this IMO, is harder to come by, great find, good luck.....Mike |
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I was under the impression that it was the envelope that was sealed; that is what he opened up to look at the set inside.
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