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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I thought that mintmarks were the last things to be added to a coin. Looks more like a die chip to me.
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United States
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This is a well-known and highly controversial misplaced mintmark variety. I agree that it's most likely die damage that superficially resembles the letter D. Die damage near the rim adds weight to this conclusion.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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must have been one of their new hires.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Well Mike Diamond cleared that up for me, The reason ANACS attributed it as a misplaced D is because that's what its known as. No matter how controversial it may be, that is what the experts called it at the time and I guess until some other expert proves it wrong (which I feel it is) chances are they will continue to do so. In situations like this it is the collector themselves that has to ask themselves if they agree with the experts or not because they are only human just like the rest of us and do make mistakes
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It is listed by Crawford(CRPM-008), Wexler(WRPM-003), and Coppercoins(1959D-1MM-021) and unlisted by CONECA and Fivaz-Stanton. As controversial as it is, this one may end up going the way of the infamous 1980D/S Lincoln. Coppercoins notes in his listing- Some experts disagree whether or not this is an actual secondary mintmark. Overlays show that is very well could be. For now, this will be placed here for informational purposes.
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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yep, either way it answers the original question on why ANACS did list it as such though
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Exactly what Biokemist says. The die has been listed for MANY years as a misplaced mintmark. I followed suit when I started listing die varieties. I didn't personally agree with it being a mintmark then, and I still don't. Still yet, others believe it is and collect it as such. Either way, the die remains difficult to locate pushing its value above that of most of the 1959D RPMs.
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Agreed, I'm also in the group that does not believe it's a misplaced mintmark. Thanks guys :-)
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I still want to know, wouldn't the date already have been on the master die before the mintmark was added? If it was, how could it possibly be another "D"? Or was the die making process different back then?
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United States
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It was punched by hand after. That's why you see them in various positions, tilted, etc.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Or it could have been from a dropped punch? We just don't know what it is yet.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4000 Posts |
I'm missing something.
Wouldn't that imply that something with the mintmark was taking place before the date?
I thought the master die had the date applied and it trickled down the line until the working dies were made and then the mintmark was added. So, how could a "D" get "under" the 9 to begin with?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The mint mark punch makes are mark on the outside if the die in the field. The deeper the damage, the closer it is to the deep devices of the die which is part of the date area. The die is just a negative of a coin.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Scooby, it's a depth thing.. in order to appear 'on top' of the date, the mint mark punch would have to have been hit deeper, past the depth of the already struck date. Saying it looks to be 'under' the date is sort of misleading, as the date area on the die is a void, so if that was really a mint mark punch, most of it would have struck air. Great pictures, as usual, coop  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Just think of everything backward. Lower on the coin means shallower on the die.
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