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Cardboard 2x2s Or Mylar Saflips?

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 Posted 05/24/2013  7:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add fredgr8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
In terms of protection (not eye appeal) which offers more of a safeguard against damage for raw coins-mylar saflips or cardboard 2x2s?
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 Posted 05/24/2013  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I always use the cardboard flips with the clear Mylar windows.
It depends how and what you collect.

I collect ALL coins, ancient to modern, all cultures, up until about 1950, when silver was no longer issued for circulation in most countries.
My need is served with the cardboard type of flip, because all of the identification and purchase ionformation can be written on the cardboard.
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 Posted 05/24/2013  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fredgr8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've heard the pure mylar (no cardboard) ones hold up better over time (basically what I'm looking for-going away to college and leaving my coins at home for four years)

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 Posted 05/24/2013  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A heat sealed saflip is a better way of archiving coins.
However I much prefer 2x2's as I can note the date type and grade on the flip and I personally prefer the aesthetics with the cardboard 2x2's especially the self adhesive type (No nasty staples).
The saflips don't center the coin or stop it from rotating in the holder, the 2x2s do
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Just keep in mind if you do go the cardboard route, to remove coins carefully as to not scratch the coin by the staple(s).
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guess I will be the odd one: I prefer mylar saflips. Its much easier to remove a coin from a flip to take additional pictures, you can put notes in the other half of the flip, and you can have more than one coin in the flip.
I don't mind if the coin moves around. I have flips in 3 sizes: 1.5 x 1.5, 2 x 2, and 2.5 x 2.5.
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Just keep in mind if you do go the cardboard route, to remove coins carefully as to not scratch the coin by the staple(s).


I usually remove coins from the cardboard holders by first gently knocking the edge of the holder on a hard surface to move the coin slightly off-center, then poke through the window with a small needle and run it around the circumference about half way. Peel away the rest of the window and dump out the coin. Works great and you don't have to worry about the staples.
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Hmm... interesting. Will give it a try!
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I prefer the cardboard flips for mostly the same reason as others. Room to write anything, coins stay in place. The plastic ones have room that could store damp air each time you open one. Not much room in the cardboard flips.
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I don't have any of them but I think I will go in cardboard way. I would like to know a self adhesive brand.
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I have used the Lighthouse self adhesive and they have been ok.
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99% of my coins are in 2x2s, which are easy to write on. With that being said, I bought a number of mylar flips. Coins I know I'm going to sell go in these to facilitate photos, etc.
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guess I will be the odd one: I prefer mylar saflips. Its much easier to remove a coin from a flip to take additional pictures, you can put notes in the other half of the flip, and you can have more than one coin in the flip.
I don't mind if the coin moves around. I have flips in 3 sizes: 1.5 x 1.5, 2 x 2, and 2.5 x 2.5.


in terms of protection and not eye appeal the saflips are much better. I like the way they look and the fact the coin may rotate doesn't bother me at all.
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 Posted 07/26/2013  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with "The_Duke"

I do mainly the same thing. When I have most of my coins in 2x2 cardboard mylar holders held with flat cinch staples, and before I got a flat cinch stapler, I always used needle nose pliers to flatten all staples. I like to have the written stuff on the coin holder around the coin, with the clear safe-flips the coin covers up the notes until you flip the holder open, hard to do so going through boxes of coins.

I used all types of flips from the PVC days on, as soon as we found out how bad PVC damages coins I dumped all of those except for short term storage, (I have crown sized flips for submitting to TPGs) otherwise I never use the soft flips - EVER for storage.

I've found living in Colorado at altitude where it is dry and cool, I never had much issue, as soon as I moved to Houston, the soft flips became a nightmare with coins literaly swimming in green PVC hydrochloric acid gunk. I lost a bit of money on a bunch of nice Indian Head cents I had in those. The higher heat and humidity began turning many of my silver coins dark brown. Then I moved to San Diego, the toning didn't happen as fast, but now I had salt water in the air to deal with. Coins stored in 2x2 mylar flips still seemed to tone darker more quickly even well stored in dry, dark areas, than the coins I had in the cardboard mylar 2x2s. I think it was due to more air getting into and around the coins in the flips - the cardboard mylar ones sealed better with 3 staples pressed firmly with the pliers.

I recently purchased the flat cinch stapler off ebay from one of the big coin supply dealers, after not being able to find one locally at office supply stores, the stapler works great, the staples are flat after stapling, no need to use pliers anymore. The cost of the staples is minimal for 5000 count boxes. I store my 2x2 mylars in carboard 2x2 boxes or in archival pages, in a 3 ring binder, inside a slip cover (mainly to keep all the dust and cat hair off them). I do love my black cats - but the hair can be a pain as it staic properties of the holders attracts the hair like nothing else!

I just purchased a Dansco album for some of my lower grade Two Cents varieties collection, I have not loaded it up yet, but will pretty soon. I also got the slip cover for it as well (same reason).

The safe-flips seem to crack often, cut my cuticles when getting coins in and out, they also scratch easily with coins that have sharp rims, and after some time in a crowded full box they just look ugly as they scratch easily and show scuffing around the coin - so I've pretty much stopped using them except as a temporary holder until I move them into the cardboard mylar holders.

I also never dispose of any coin holders in my trash, they are stuffed into a fast food bag and tossed into the trash away from home, no need to advertise what I might have in the house at any given time, to anyone going through the trash cans, looking for cans or ? Just a safety precaution, I urge all collectors to follow. I've been vicitm to a huge burglary that was close to $80K many years ago. The less information about coins at my home the better. All coins are kept in a safe, well hidden, or at the bank in a deposit box. I also use a PO Box for all coin related transactions and mailings, which also get disposed of minus any personal information like mailing labels somewhere far away in a non descript bag.

My Two Cents for what it's worth.

What a month of coin holders looks like from ebay transactions:
Cardboard-2x2s-Or-Mylar-Saflips?
Note when removing coins from these holders I use a razor blade and slice around the hole and just push out the coin onto a towel, no chance of staple scratches. Yes I know I didn't do that on all of these coins holders, but many were very low grade and already scratched to heck and back. No coins were harmed in doing so (this time).
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I also never dispose of any coin holders in my trash, they are stuffed into a fast food bag and tossed into the trash away from home, no need to advertise what I might have in the house at any given time, to anyone going through the trash cans, looking for cans or ? Just a safety precaution, I urge all collectors to follow. I've been vicitm to a huge burglary that was close to $80K many years ago. The less information about coins at my home the better. All coins are kept in a safe, well hidden, or at the bank in a deposit box. I also use a PO Box for all coin related transactions and mailings, which also get disposed of minus any personal information like mailing labels somewhere far away in a non descript bag.


Glad to see others who do this type of thing too. I never throw my cardboard flips away in the regular trash. If I don't shred or burn them, I toss them out in a bag with dog waste or chicken scraps that tend to get really nasty and rotten in a matter of a couple days when exposed to the elements here in Texas. I figure that'll keep people from snooping around in my trash. I only do it this way because I don't have a baby to throw them in with the diaper trash.
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Yep the trash can gets pretty nasty in June-October in Texas heat with the cat poop! Amonia smell is powerful!


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I only do it this way because I don't have a baby to throw them in with the diaper trash.


commas please! Or maybe just better proof reading, thanks you made my night, reading that sentance!
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