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1964 Lincoln Obverse Dbl Die

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roll hunting with my dad and he pulled this beautiful red 64 in amazing shape. thinking this one slipped back into circulation somehow.

so opinions please from more experienced eyes? andf also is it a known error or not?

Thanks. sorry for the qaulity of pics just using my new scope to scan them pretty quickly so havent messed with the lighting much..

i did shoot some comparison with some others and it def is different and has some lettering drift on G O very pronounced and notice the I..
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Sorry but from the images provided, it appears to be Machine Doubling. Note the mark on the "N" is actually reduce the side of the device and not enlarging it. The tops of the motto could be die flow or more Machine Doubling. If it is flat shelf like, it is Machine Doubling. If there is a pattern of die flow in this area it is die wear. Either way, not a collectable. I would hang onto it for now until I see some better close ups of that area. If this was a proof coin, I would think it is flat field doubling. You see that on proof coins as the two strikes on cents don't exactly match up creating a strong strike double that you can see what appears as movement on the surface of the coin.
Here is an example: (Note the arrows in red on this image)
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See where the devices were pushed from the previous strike. The die was a doubled die but also has flat field doubling. I used to think it was a tripled die, but it is not.
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so explain the I? thanks for the info
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The device is overall normal sized. A mark on the top of the device doesn't make show hub doubling. More like the Machine Doubling that made the mark on the "N".

Note on the image I posted. The IN is the same size as your coin. But not the white arrows on the right side of these devices. The hub made a raised are in that location.
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gotcha its def something I want to look at more.. reagardless its the first one of its kind for me and in amazing condition..

thanks for the info again
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I have many images on my image host. 3,000+ So I might have the answer to your next question already imaged.
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My first thought was a worn die not MD.Does this show anywhere else on the coin?
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I was thinking worn die at first also but when I noticed the flat shelf all directions of the letters I figured MD.
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The date has some to it as well I will try and get more pictures tonight. Regardless I love it and it's unique after looking at thousands of thousands of them haha :)
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