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1958 Wheat Penny D Over S Error?

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Hi All,
I hope I am doing this right. While I have looked through a variety of your posts over the past couple of years when searching for coin answers I have always seemed to find the answer within a topic or previous posting; never having felt the need to register or post a question. To that, I say thank you all!
I have recently started to go through all the wheat pennies we have collected over the years. Some inherited, some bought as part of lots and those we've just thrown in ourselves into the pot.
I decided I wanted to see if I could come up with a complete set and started sorting. During the process I came up with a couple that while using my loop (bad eyes, lol) I caught a few with obvious differences just trying to sort out the dates.
The one I found most intriguing was a 1958 D Wheat penny that the D just looked "wrong" tilted. When I photographed it to get a better look I found what appears to be something under the tilted D which looks to me like a possible S. I have not been able to find any others like this in trying to research it myself and was wondering if someone in this forum could give me any info. Any and all help is appreciated. Thank you!

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I don't see the S but I checked coppercoins.com and found there are 56 different D mint marks for that year.
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The mint mark looks like it took a hit on the upper serif area. Note the overall shape of the mint mark is normal in size, but the area of the what you called tilted is actually reduced in over all shape. The his made it look like a RPM, but it is not. The mint mark punches/mint for the "S" had been retired/closed for over three years when your coin had been struck. So it is impossible for it to be a "S" mint mark punch. Hope this helps. Nice to see you here!
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Coop!, Thank you, I was looking at it as a smallish tilted D and trying to figure out how another D tilted up could look more like an S especially as the lower inside of The D was a bit thick as well. Again was just thinking an over strike and no further; I was stuck in that groove. I saw that there were a few years where no S's were printed but for the life of me all I could see was a darn S in the curve at the top. So that is what I have been researching to find. Doh! It's like an optical illusion that you just don't see until you look at it with more wisdom; which it appears you have in excess;) Thank you, so much - still a fun find and worth a bit more than just another wheatie:) I have another one a 1944 that looks like a gingersnap, lol like cracks and crazing. Not sure if environmental or minted in that state and a 1938 that just has the upper part of the one almost just a dot, again unsure if maybe a money counter just got it but... shrugs* how am I ever going to learn if I don't ask, right? Maybe I'll post those a bit later. Thanks so much again!
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Please keep posting, we love to see new coins in here! Not only is it the best way for you to learn, but it also usually helps many others. Glad to have you in our community.
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Kind of like this one?
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 Posted 04/11/2014  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rascalsally to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hmmm... no Coop, I think more defined cracking as opposed to a washing out. Let me see if I can get a pic of it and I'll post it.
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When you mentioned an oatmeal cookie I remember this coin. LOL
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Really, more like... gingersnap anyone? =o)

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 Posted 04/11/2014  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rascalsally to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The back shows it better I picked up too much flash on the front, but should get the general idea?
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Figured while I was taking pics I'd take the 3rd one as well. Now that I see an enlarged view of this penny it does appear that the one might have been lopped off during it's travels?

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 Posted 04/11/2014  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rascalsally to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ooopsie... and I wanted to thank you all for your friendly welcoming and replies. I am truly amazed at the quickness of this group!
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Your cookie also looks like a dropped acid..

1938 is an interesting one. A closer view of the date area might reveal what happened to it. Some years a part of a hub (That forms a die) have devices that have chipped off. The 1936 had a die that the "R" left foot had chipped off. The 1956 had hub that the lower part of the 6 had chipped away. But I've not heard of this year affected that way yet. So a close up might show what happened to the die or to the coin?
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awww poor cookie... These coins are having waaay more fun than I am right now;)
Here is a closer look at that date on the 38 - still not sure myself and those vertical scratches I hadn't noticed at all until I pulled up the picture for the last post:( It's crazy what you can see in a photo what you can't even under a loop sometimes...

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Let me know if you need a closer image and I'll see what I can do.
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That does look like a chipped hub. The area looks untouched with the devices not touched. Do you mind if I add that image to my image library? I might need it another time and to share with other collectors.
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Rascaisally,

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Hi All,
I hope I am doing this right. While I have looked through a variety of your posts over the past couple of years when searching for coin answers I have always seemed to find the answer within a topic or previous posting; never having felt the need to register or post a question. To that, I say thank you all!

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