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 Posted 01/04/2008  4:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 1899 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What do you think the best coin investment is for the future?
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 Posted 01/04/2008  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly, you are better off collecting coins as a hobby instead. There is some money to be made in bullion depending on the spot prices for gold and silver, but the market is too volatile in the short term to treat as an investment. Same thing with rare coins.
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 Posted 01/04/2008  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dillon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i would go with any coins from 1960 or below
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 Posted 01/05/2008  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cannonman17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the above 100% but if you're still going to buy coins as an investment then IMO you should buy the highest greade key date coins that you can afford of the most popular series like 32 D&S Washingtons, 09-S VDB or 14-D cents, etc.
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 Posted 01/05/2008  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think rare coins will always be going up in price. It certainly wont be in my lifetime that I see an UNC $4.00 Stella selling for less than $10,000. Rather, I think they will continue to increase in price until virtually no one can afford them anymore...
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 Posted 01/05/2008  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add patrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a great question.

If I were collecting for an investment, I would target:
(1) gold bullion
(2) silver bullion
(3) key date gold and silver coins
(4) other key date coins (09S VDB, etc)
(5) other silver coins
(6) everything else.

Unfortunately, most of my collection is #6.

Luckily, my goal in collecting coins is not to make money. I collect coins because I like their design or because it provides an interesting link to history. Value and appreciation is the last think I think about. As it is, I'm not planning on selling any of my collection - I'll leave that to whoever inherits it after I die.

Many people may have a different opinion. For example, when I talk with family and friends about my collection one of the first questions is always "how much are these worth." For some (actually, most) of my coins, the sentimental value is far higher than the monetary value.


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01/05/2008 7:59 pm
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Do you all think buying lots of silver is a good investment?
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 Posted 01/05/2008  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Remember when buying bullion there are ask and bid prices, as well as commissions you will have to pay.
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 Posted 01/05/2008  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chevrolet454ss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think pre 1964 half dollars or 1965 thru 1969 half dollars are good investment since you can still find them easy from roll hunting and get them for face value all day long if you look around for them. Its silver at face value from roll hunting.

The reason I say they good investment is dealers pay you 9 x face on 64 halfs if you trade with coin dealer. Example if you pay 10 bucks for an roll 64 halfs from roll hunting those bank boxs. Its worth 90 bucks to an coin dealer on trades. Example if he has 1931 s cent for 90 bucks. You trade an get the 1931 s cent for 10 bucks becides paying 90 bucks using federal reserve notes like worthless paper money. You pay 10 bucks for coin and not 90 bucks

The dealer is happy is sells the roll of pre 64 halfs for 110 or 120 bucks to silver investor who collects those things or metal bullion investor.

On the 1965 thru 1969 half dollars they are 40% silver and they pay less on them. Melted down 1 coin is worth 2.25 with silver at 15 bucks per ounce.

This my goal this year is to finish 13 incomplete sets pennys and maybe 5 sets of nickels , one dime sets. Tons of them incomplete sets . I need finish each set complete with all keys.

I saved over 400 dollars face on worthless 1971 thru 2000 half dollars. I am going buy 5000 dollars worth half dollars from bank to search for silver. I will replace each silver coin with one of mine 1971 thru 2000 clad coins from searching. I will spend 5000 at bank and next week I will sell 5000 dollars back to bank after I search them. It may take serval times before my intire 400 dollars face is turned into silver coins.

When I get 400 to 500 dollars face on silver halfs. I will make an trade with an dealer on geting all my sets finished . My sets later can be sold later no problem if want sell them.

So buy as many half dollar boxs you find from your locol bank and start pulling silver. I know an guy who pulled over 15000 dollars worth junk halfs last year from searching half dollar boxs. He was spending 5000 per weak on bank boxs to get those silver coins.

One other coin investment thats good deal is 1959 thru 1982 copper pennys to save for copper bullion. They are worth 2 cents each you can buy at locol bank. I buy those 25 dollar bank boxes and remove maybe 4 to 5 dollars worth copper pennys. I make 25 dollar bricks of all 59 thru 82 coppers . I sell them for 50 bucks each since they are copper bullion. I toss the 83 thru 07 zincs back into banks since they are worthless. Its same thing they years ago with silver dimes or quarters. With copper pennys you can double your money since your buying at bank.

Bad coin Investments I learned the hard away and would not buy if you. 1999 silver proof sets. I paid 300 bucks for one. Its onley worth 250 greysheat and dealer buy it know is 199. I would not buy any proof sets or mint sets since they are money losers I learned. So dont buy those things.

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 Posted 01/05/2008  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bullions in my opinion is one of the WORST ways to invest your money, even worse if you are buying them in other currenies other than USD. A weak USD only makes the prices appear that it's increasing dramatically whereas in reality it is just growing slowly. There are a few precious metal mines that I know are scheduled to be open from 2010-2012 in response to the high metal prices as mining companies will not want to miss the chance of these prices - they are extremely profitable at the moment. Some of the few companies are BHP Billiton, Rio Tinto, Anglo, etc.

You might want to argue that if you are trading in USD, you might be making a profit but you should take in account of the inflation that is going on at the moment. Not much of a bargain in my opinion.
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http://www.us-coin-values-advisor.c...or-sale.html

Above is a great website that discusses that issue. It seems keys are the way to go.

Lincolns are hot right now. Also, I think lower grade keys tend to be good investments. Especially those grades where the next higher sees a huge price jump. And even better if you can obtain a (lower), hard to find grade. I won an PCGS G6 1922 plain cent with strong reverse for just under $600 (including shipping). I was ecstatic because that's a really tough hole to fill, and they're impossible to find in such low (reasonable priced) grades.

Last I will say it's not a good idea to buy coins if you only view them as an investment. Hobby first, investment second? Absolutely. There are much better and more efficient places to put your investment money. Also, if you're not a hobbyist, the learning curve of the Coin World would be overwhelming.
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Key date coins to popular series are a great investment. Some coins I'm talking about are the 1916-D Mercury dime, 1909-S VDB and 1914-d Lincoln Cent, 1916 Standing Liberty quarter, 1932-S and 1932-D Washington quarters. These coins been increasing steadily for the last 10 years.

For a bullion coin, I would consider Platinum Eagles. Platinum is a much rarer metal than Gold and is primarily used in catalytic converters.
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If you're collecting then you might be best off going with what everyone else thinks. You'll have a lot of fun no matter what you collect if you pay attention, but you'll have more company if you go with the crowd.

It's not a good idea to invest in collectibles probably but the way to make money in any investment is to be a contrarian. It's very difficult to get in early if you go with the crowd and even tougher to get out in time.

Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Spider, I disagree with your thoughts of your platinum bullion. It is indeed true that about 50% of platinum demand is used for catalysts but a bigger amount of palladium are used for catalysts. As for such, the prices of palladium has been increasing in response to the high platinum prices.

There are researchs of how to significantly reduce the amount of PGMs used for catalysts and there are studies of how gold can be a possiblity. All these depends on the metal pricing. The only reason why platinum prices are so high up is simply because historically palladium supply has been shown to be quite unreliable as 50% of palladium supply comes from Russia.

Currently there are big discoveries of platinum ores by Impala Platinum in Zimbabwe which a high possiblity of adding another 1 million ounces by 2012 per year which is at least 10% of the current supply. The only thing that is keeping the supply production is the current Zimbabwe politics that is making mining companies fleeing from the mad regime.

It is extremely premature to say that prices of platinum will keep rising simply because of the current demand trend. In the near future, yes, it's likely that prices of platinum will keep going up. But for how much longer? What if subtitutes of platinum was replaced by palladium rapidly? Have you even bothered to check the amount of future supply that's going to be coming online in the next few years? I highly recommand you to read this site before any speculations http://www.platinum.matthey.com/
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 Posted 01/06/2008  05:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You asked, " Do you all think buying lots of silver is a good investment?"

If I'm not mistaken, the price of silver has doubled over a relatively (recent) short period of time. That does not mean it'll continue to go up anymore than it means it may stall.

Jim
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I think the key, as always, is buy low sell high.

My Two Cents worth;

Gold, common dates, AU58 to MS63.
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