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Large Cent Grading

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 Posted 01/14/2008  8:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add patrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm starting to look into buying a large cent. I'm pretty new to all of this (ebay, large cents, coin collecting) and am in need of some help. This forum has been very useful to me in the past month and I'm really enjoying participating and learning. It would be great to tap into some of the knowledge you all have.

I've located a coin and have made a tentative guess at grade, type, etc. I'd like to see how close I am - and maybe why/how I'm off. I'm not planning on bidding on this one - it's just for practice. The link is below, followed by my opinion. I hope it's ok to post this - if you would rather I post just the image I can do that too:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1856-US-Large-C...de_W0QQitemZ230212546348QQihZ013QQcategoryZ11950QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting





And here's what I think:
1856 slanted 5 liberty braided hair cent
Grade F/VF - weird mark above head, nicks on rim,
Cleaned (and badly)
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 Posted 01/14/2008  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sleaklight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I amno good at grading large cents but I think it looks cleaned and retoned.
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 Posted 01/14/2008  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with your assessment. My first reaction as to the grade was a low VF but the obvious cleaning/polishing thats been done to this large cent would send me running.

I am glad to see you said you wouldn't be bidding on this cent.



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 Posted 01/15/2008  01:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks cleaned and retoned to me. Pass.
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 Posted 01/15/2008  06:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blcoinnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cleaned and retoned
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 Posted 01/15/2008  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe ya'll are seeing something here I'm not. Definitely cleaned, but I don't see any sign of being retoned. As far as a grade goes, I'd say VF20, without taking in to account it's cleaned status. I'd pass on this one.
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 Posted 01/15/2008  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Harshly (improperly) cleaned!! Stay away!
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 Posted 01/15/2008  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree harshly cleaned, but I'm not seeing the retoned.
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 Posted 01/15/2008  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XF40 details, improperly cleaned or dipped.
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 Posted 01/15/2008  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd agree on XF-40 details. The photograph does no justice to the coin, however, making it look cleaned by that sickly pinkish/orangish cast. I don't know the seller at all, so have no way of knowing if he/she is a good photographer or not. The odd color could be the result of incorrect white balance setting on the camera...or it could be exactly what it looks like...the result of harsh cleaning with something like Brasso.
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 Posted 02/20/2008  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copperflopper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is what we affectionately call a "KETCHUP" cent. dipped in vinegar, pickel juice. etc. The effect is the same. Will take along time to retone.
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 Posted 02/20/2008  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now you know what Jeweluster does to copper.

That thing hammered at $34 over market.
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 Posted 02/21/2008  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I look at the conditions between the "F" and "A," behind the head, and under the bust, I see a paint job...aka, re-tone.

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 Posted 02/21/2008  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gbchaosmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm...the worn parts match the fields...I wonder... And there's a huge ding in the obverse for good measure. It doesn't deserve a grade.
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 Posted 02/23/2008  06:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Upon looking at this coin a second day, it actually looks dipped-retoned to me. ugh.....leeeeee !!
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