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I am very cautious about calling any of these real. Especially when in this high of a grade. I grew up in New England in the 1970's. These things were everywhere. I mean from W.T. Grants to Giant Store, to guys selling them at Old Home Day.
I hope I am wrong, but I have to vote fake.
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If this were a genuine silver continental currency dollar, it would be worth a LOT of money. There are only a few known genuine specimens.
How did the owner obtain it decades ago?
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Oh my goodness yes. If somebody called me and said "My grandpa gave me a 1776 Dollar" I would say there is less than a 1 in 100k chance it is real.
That is not what I am doing. It is easy to say "Well most are fake therefore this is fake" but that is sort of silly because there ARE real ones.
I am looking for specific reasons it is fake or real.
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specific: Look in the rings. The marks there look like casting bubbles. Especially in the rings below ONE
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There are varieties of this dollar, but below is a comparison of the closest variety to the one you posted.  Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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These are souvenirs, and have been sold for decades.
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nss-52, you've done it again! You gave a perfect example!  The coin is fake. |
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A bad fake at that.
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Many colonial era copies like this were sold back in the late 1960-70's. Civil War era copies, stimulated by the centennial had previously been relatively successful in the marketplace, and the colonial era copies were made with bicentennial collectors in mind.
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That's a souvenir - it's similar to the US Constitution copies they sell at museums. Interesting exonumia but nothing of high value.
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09/19/2016 8:14 pm
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I'd say there is a difference between a fake and a souvenir. A fake intends to deceive; a souvenir does not.
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I'd say there is a difference between a fake and a souvenir. A fake intends to deceive; a souvenir does not. Intent to deceive is not relevant as to whether a coin is a fake or not. Intent to deceive is not relevant as to whether a coin is a souvenir or not. A piece of metal can't have intent. It is the seller that has the intent. Actual souvenirs are frequently used to deceive unsuspecting buyers. Was the souvenir manufactured to deceive? Maybe not, but when later sold, there can indeed be intent to deceive. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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The Continental currency pieces came from four obv and four rev dies. They were paired in six combinations. 1-A, 1-B, 1-C, 2-C, 3-D, and 4-D. The genuine piece that nss-52 posted is a 2-C. The die pair the OP posted is 1-D a pairing that was never used on a genuine coin.
Another point is the genuine Continental Currency pieces were struck with new well executed dies, the lettering is slender and sharp. On the OP coin the lettering is broad and mushy, note especially the word BUSINESS. The letters are little more than blobs.
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I would agree with the consensus, a fake and a pretty poor one.
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