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 Posted 01/31/2017  3:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rhemler to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi everyone,

I found this quarter in a unopened/sealed roll directly from the FED/Mint - it was the second coin in the roll, the other coin in the pictures below was the "head" of the roll - which I've included for comparison's sake.

Is this a unique error, or common? I'm not even exactly sure what this type of error is called? I'm curiuous as to whether or not I've found something worthwhile? Oddly enough the face side is completely normal...

Edit; I guess I should also add the ridge is not developed the same, on the obverse side; the ridge around the circle is raised.










Edited by Rhemler
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 Posted 01/31/2017  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. What does the obverse look like on the coin on the left in the first photo?
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 Posted 01/31/2017  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rhemler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin in question is to the left, the normal quarter is to the right. My apologies I took the picture on my phone makes it look like it is scratched up or somewhat dirty but it is not it is just the lighting. The last Photo in my first post is the coin in question.





And again the lighting makes it look like there is a scratch right next to the E in united but There is no scratch

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 Posted 01/31/2017  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Different for sure, I am going to wait for the experts.
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 Posted 01/31/2017  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first thing that comes to my mind is a grease filled die.
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 Posted 01/31/2017  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin was polished with a machine. Note the rims are rolled out wider than the normal coin. The finish is very shiny. Even the incuse devices on the outside ring are almost totally gone. Just look for someone with burned fingers. LOL
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 Posted 01/31/2017  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Check CoinCollector2000's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like they buffed out the design
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 Posted 01/31/2017  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rhemler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I was thinking that as well the first time To be honest with you, but... the part that threw me was that the quarter was in a new roll (sealed) directly from the Fed/Mint and that the entire roll were all Harper Ferry quarters all of which look uncirculated. Is that something that may have been done at the Mint?

Thanks for the input !
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 Posted 02/01/2017  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So it is polished as you say, and it came from the mint in a sealed roll, was it done by someone at the mint?
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The coin was polished with a machine. Note the rims are rolled out wider than the normal coin. The finish is very shiny. Even the incuse devices on the outside ring are almost totally gone. Just look for someone with burned fingers. LOL


I disagree. I believe this very well may be a genuine Mint error, possibly struck through something very thin.

A smooth, shiny surface is very common on genuine struck-through errors (especially when struck through another planchet or deteriorating die cap). The smooth surface of this coin also lacks any hairlines which would be expected from post-strike alteration.

The incuse lettering on the periphery is actually extended into the rim. In fact there is almost no space between this lettering and the rim. This suggests to me that whatever may have been in between the planchet and the die had been struck previously and when struck into this coin stretched out to create the observed effect. This may also explain what looks like a shallow valley or channel outlining the design elements.

The rims appear to be relatively unaffected, in my opinion. Polishing should thin he design rim, not make it significantly larger.

What I actually don't like about it is the molten, wavy look. In support of your conclusion, coop, I believe this effect could result from circular polishing. At least that's what other experts have concluded in the past.

Lastly, I think we should put more weight on the OPs story. Certainly it limits the possibility of damage, but does not exclude it.

This coin deserves a second look and more scrutiny. Rhemler, is there any chance that you could get sharper pictures? That would help immensely, in my opinion.
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 Posted 02/01/2017  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weight would also be nice to see if it is normal or reduced a bit. But closer images would be a plus.
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 Posted 02/01/2017  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well that's interesting. At least two others like this have sold on eBay. Both have been found in Pennsylvania.

Being that there are other, nearly identical examples, I would say that it is even more likely that it is an error.
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 Posted 02/01/2017  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is probably more of a struck through a thinned capped die. Good eye ErrorCoins. I wish I have better images of this for my educational files. The coin looked polished from what I saw the first time.
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1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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 Posted 02/16/2017  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AtB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Unusually severe examples of die wear are uncommon and generally reflect a failure to remove a die in a timely fashion.

http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-co...uarters.html
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Glad you found another example; that makes three.
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